>communism

>morals

Good one

What about working for a friend of your dad who offers you a job, would it be possible in your society?

I'm not going to just ist here so people and vomit memes at me.

*just

Communism is the biggest meme

you can temporarely block him if you want

i want a discussion

How is he offering me a job?

to work on a farm lets say

Is it a "do you want to come and join our co-operative in (city)?"

>hey bro wanna do this job that I'll pay you for?

>Yeah sounds good

Would I have a democratic say there?

No just 3 days a week you work there for a few hours, you get paid

What is your problem with this

You can suggest things but he is in no way forced to act on it

No. As I said it is destructive. We all have a responsibility to act for the best of the collective, and standing over your fellow American with an illegal corporation/corporate-style businesses is not acceptable in my eyes.

Communism still hasn't refuted this

See that's when communism goes wacky

Supposed economic progress ~~not human progress~~ does not out weigh your duty to the nation to give and accept rights and responsibilities.

Yeah famines are the better alternative

Because lets say you get your system, I get all of the risks too if it fails, I'd be broke for a long time just because I worked at a farm(and I had no idea what it takes to make a farm profitable, i was just offered a job)

I'm not a communist though.

You sound like one

What are you then

It'd be a harsh transition.

it's simply not practical, I don't want a risk like that every time I get a job

But of course the stat ewould be there for you, so would the CHurch and community.

you wouldn't...

Because that isn't how it works.

State backed corporations eh

Sounds doomed to fail

Not every other business could be a hierarchal death trap.

Fuck dude, I never said that.

Why even try hard if your failures don't impact you

I said that there would be welfare there for you, and private charity too.

kind of like now, but welfare won't help if my farm goes bankrupt and I get a portion of the debt because I worked there one summer

anyone recommend an article that can teach me about the different forms of communism

Of course assuming you are now back to looking for a job and working to get back to work.

Dm

Me

They are all equally shit

Don't even start on anarcho-''communism''

Why are you here

To make fun of you

he memes

Well, that would be worked out with the state and everyone involved. But even then, co-operatives are actually rare to fail when it is not just some teens starting up their businesses.

Let me find the article on it.

It's a Canadian Co-op that has been standing for ages and continue to grow through a good few recessions.

Hey @Deleted User refute this

worked out with the state? how?

would they erase my debt?

Well, if that debt is too big for you. Of course.

Also, I mean. Who do you owe it to?

The state bank?

It'd likely be the state bank.

well then, no reason to not take a huuuge risk in any business then

the state backs me anyway

Yeah, investments are parasitic...

investments are needed

Risk in business is generally non-labour related.

Just not those that don't have an effect if they fail

If they are required, then progressively and steeply tax them.

Do you follow TYT @Anglican

But it is a non-labour effort.

How much would you tax a big business?

Unlike cultural pursuits or physical ones.

A big co-op?

yea

I mean, co-ops would be at best just a part of a larger regional organization meant to repersent them and allow for universal decision making.

Some being only a factory or one store.

I'd say that they should have a progressive tax depending on size. Starting out at a very slow slope until they begin to get really fucking big.

It is not like I'm against economic growth. But against the obcession with profit.

obsession with profit often promotes innovation

No.

bill gates and steve jobs didn't do it because it was fun, they wanted to become rich

and bill gates does a shit load of charity

Exactly

When profit hangs over your head, you are stressed. This stress decreases engagement and productivity.

Limiting your in your ability to innovate.

>When profit hangs over your head, you are stressed. This stress decreases engagement and productivity.

People want stress to an amount, they want to push themselves

[citation needed]

Why do people go to a casino?

For the thrill of a game

Does it make it okay?

'Push themselves'

give them the same money they had when they came in and they won't want to play anymore

That's like saying you are more likely to have an accident when wearing a helmet because you feel mre safe therefore becoming less aware of danger

Pople can innovate just fine in their garages with flexable hours and a mostly unmoving wage.

*people

They should push themselves as hard as they think they should, why not/

Why does someone else know just how much I can push myself?

Well. If that is what thye want. But a constant assault on you due to the threat of your page falling because you are really down or sick while being the most productive member of the office.

*gay

*pay