it was unilateral

Well an example is what we are discussing. Blacks didn't have the vote so legally they didn't factor into the consideration. But you're making a moral argument about how it was wrong that blacks didn't have the vote and using that to nullify the argument for secession

ok ill just get to the point

america is perfect

no one can leave

Enjoy your ZOG

unless gov says so

America is shit and will soon be a nonwhite country. It's based on shit values and much of it was built by christian cultists.

Enjoy your sinking ship

democracy isnt a christian idea

niether is secularism

Secularism is very Protestant

they did not invent it

Because they all keep disagreeing on bullshit so the only way a Protestant country can avoid collapse and infighting is secularism

the ottomans were more secular than the protestants !!!!\

Similar issues, they were dealing with lots of different religions

Basically the same as dealing with lots of Christian cults

also secularism by definition means there is no state religion

so its not christian

its not muslim

its not jewish

its not bhuddist

its not athiest

its agnostic

Yes, because the only way to avoid all the infighting is to adopt an individualistic approach where the state has no affiliation with religion.

so you want the government to tell you what to believe

You still find references to God strewn around though, so obviously America was Christian.

not in the constitution

nor delclaration of independence

I want the nation to share common values and beliefs. If there's disagreement on fundamental issues between groups of people, it's better they separate into their own communities and nations

Free deseret

(for example)

i believe the nation should agree on common values and beliefs such as nationalism and democracy

and capitalism

and we do

lol capitalism

Enjoy getting BTFOd by China

well jusr sabotage thier economy

State-sponsored economic sabotage? Doesn't sound very capitalistic to me.

ok make that protectionalism

Protectionism is perfectly logical, but I wouldn't count it as one of my core values.