lol they were states

we were a fucking territory

i have no problem with a territory seceding

but a state

an integrated part of your country

....

A state is supposed to be an anonymous entity, the point of a federation is that the central government derives its authority from the consent of the states

in a federation one cannot leave the ocuntry

Unless you want some kind of empire

*country

d i r e c t r u l e f r o m w a s h i n g t o n

thats why china wont let taiwan secede

and im ok with that

So your notion is based entirely on legal status?

i.e. if it's technically a state it can't secede?

if they share the same rights as the state

and they would need permission from the gov

winning war is an option

Well obviously no government would ever allow that

south sudan

imagine thinking sudan is a country

Fair enough, but it's not as though US politicians will allow it

the philipines us to be a territory

So?

now they arent

What's wrong with the south seceding?

1 they claimed us territories

(even if you dont include the south itself

like kentucky which majority wanted to stay

They'd probably want to go these days

they also did not hold referndum

So what? US democracy is representative.

so if you want to secede you need support from the peopel

otherwise you get a shit country

Well they voted in candidates who were pro-secession

not really secession happened quite fast

and most people were drafted into the rebel army

Anti-northern sentiment existed for some time

there is anti english sentiment

The north drafted people too mate, both sides were just desparate for soldiers

should scotland secede