it has been proven

the freer the economy the more money you have

Why is having more money the ultimate goal?

You can never satisfy greed

so we can have better lives

so we can feed our families

so we dont have to work

so our kids dont have to

I view a better life as not slaving away behind a desk my whole life getting depressed and unhealthy and having no connection to the wider society, only being a cog in the capitalist machine, another unit of production to be counted and measured purely in terms of how much wealth I can produce for my superiors

work harder get promoted

get a new job

Life is nothing but pleasure

Oh, so I can enter the next rotation of the cycle with slightly more wealth, and fewer years left of my life to live.

invest in stock

What do I do with the wealth? I acquire some material items that have now become the sole purpose in my life. I add yet more layers of artificiality and techno-isolation to my life that's already devoid of real community and relationships, any sense of belonging to the wider society other than that my produce will be counted among the aggregate national statistics

lol go become a hunter

live out in the wilderness

Much better lifestyle frankly, but hardly efficient and capitalistic

You get a sense of connection with your origins and the natural world, the life you would live is one in harmony with that of your ancestors. You can join a simple village community and get to know them and trust them personally. You form real human connections, not professional strategic relationships. You live as you were meant to live.

hm have you ever thought of the idea that acting in your own self-interest might just benefit the rest of society

Sure but not necessarily

the hells that mean

There are some actions that you may take that are in your interest and benefit the wider society, there are others that don't.

Becoming a thief may be in your interest, for example, but harms society.

well yes of course but on an economic basis it helps society

that is why we have laws

Theft?

no

we have laws to prevent theft

Ok, so what about economic exploitation?

It's similar to theft but not illegal

Such as overcharging someone for a house or a repair job

hm

do you know how the free market works

I am familiar

explain to me the concept of competition

But the free market assumes everyone is rational, and that competiton actually exists.

,

Monopolies are a thing

tell me how competition doesn't exist

monopolies