Message from @Aggro Saxon
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Nice try
If the blacks had the choice they would have sticked with the British who were about to abolish slavery
i said thats the process for states not territories
blacks should be killed
wow
all you had to do was make america provinces
edge
and give us representation at parliment
lol
US didn't give blacks representation
america would look so much better if it was only white
So fucking there
Not that I care
@Aggro Saxon you kinda didnt either
shouldent have taken the slavessssss
until the 1800s
#antiangloaction
I'm not trying to argue that legitimacy is based on whether blacks have a say
You are
im arguing that a state cannot secede without a referendum
and consent
from the gov
not a territory
You were arguing that the politicians who supported secession were illegitimate in doing so because blacks didn't vote for them
correct by that time most countries aboloshed slavery
So what? The politicians were elected by the democratic system of the time. You appear to be making an argument based on legal legitimacy.
Now you've magically shifted the goalposts to moral legitimacy
i.e. being nice to blacks or something
no both are true
at the same time
Even when they are in conflict?
how so
it was established by that time slavery was wrong
and it was illegal
to secede
because they did not consent the governmetn
it was unilateral
Well an example is what we are discussing. Blacks didn't have the vote so legally they didn't factor into the consideration. But you're making a moral argument about how it was wrong that blacks didn't have the vote and using that to nullify the argument for secession
ok ill just get to the point