and crooked interpertation of it

we dont know what it is

at least i am 😄

but , oke ther is science

and you said reason

but that is based on a pre set of situations and expirances

and also simulation in which you way out sets of information aka data

to get a result

i just meant there's other ways of thinking about the world

not just through science

oke

so illogical feel feels

you could work out your own patterns inside it

Somali people are caucasoid

frutecake thinking

@💖Koikat💖 i can believe that, they have a migration history stemming from the north, they had christian kingdoms there , and they found anchient structures there so who knows how far it gioes back

the whole place looks like it used to be used for agriculture

there are even some stories and articles on pale skined european looking ppl who dont match the european gentic set

lol

hes stil alive

do you eat raw meat @Varg

@ApplicationBot ow shit, i forgot, sorry aabout the derogative terms

??

but oke reason other way of thinking

i think you just talk about internal scientific deduction

i made fun of the other ways of thinking

science is based in an assumption that the world works according to philosophical naturalism

science is just breaking down things methodically and logically

if you undermine that assumption you get other ways

this is how ppls brains work in varriened degrees

im intretsed in other ways but so sfar you cant pin it down more the "reason" wihich i just gave my opinon on

also, our current science is built upon the science of previous discoveries and has an inherent bias there

well sure

but you wish to contest celcius or something

it's not just names

and not all science is based on previous information and result

or units

well, eventually you need to fit everything into a dominant theory

all side theories that could be just as valid collapse

or ad hoc methods

well, like which temprature thoeries are there , or where

a thoery isnt disproven by default when ontother arises

I prefer the newtonion view of things

im not talking about scientific theories inside science

It's very simple

so if there is another option that option should sill be ther if it isnt false

science is a description of the world

no

there can be other descriptions

science seeks to explain everything in terms of previous paradigms

i dont think so

if you assume the world works like a machine then all new discoveries try to follow that until it breaks

some scientist have a preset of bias sure, but thats ppl being flawed

and isnt science as soo as the bias iis introduced

you explain things in a wrong manner, that seems to be useful for us but doesnt get close to the truth

it only breaks, because some "scientist" fucked up

Somalia is being overrun by Negroids.

newton's mechanics eventually werent good enough to describe everything

so we found relativity

which is completly different

for example your description of temperature might work and the equations might predict well but you say nothing about the real nature of it and thus can't know what is really going on

Something that I learned after hours of debating people (and I'm not kidding about this) is that some people *actually* don't realize that intelligence affects socioeconomic status more than socioeconomic status affects intelligence

the molecules accelatere and the temprature rises as isthe presure

It's something that is so obvious

i literaly found this out by myself when i was 8

called some college to ask if its treu

you can never know if thats the objective reality though

Like hey, this group in our country has a low socioeconomic status, WHY could that be? Well many reasons yes... But, it could be an indicator that that group has lower intelligence.

its just a description using human language

you can look at the moleculair relative accelaration to see what the temprature is

I wouldn't assume that without more evidence though

But god damn the hoops some people will jump through to avoid that

Conclusion

human perception is what humans are and that perception isn't objective but is rather obswserved through consciousness

source wiki

so unless you know what consciousness is you can never know what perception and thus reality is

and you can also never know what consciousness is

i think scientific method and thought are the same

science is only "useful" not a truthteller

you get data process it as logical and rational as posible to get a outcome

when you get new insights you gain moa more accurate conclusion

science is based on this

yes

that thoeries get proven and new theoies develop from those discoveries just as more expirances leed to more discoveries in life

then there is flawed thinking and bas science , which i think is your problem with science

well

assume you can have 100% pure science with no paradigm, containing ALL data and be clear

you would only be describing the world through you own lens then

that isnt the way of scinece as you should always look for variables and anomolies

AND you would have the problem of base assumptions

it is open to the fact that it could be wrong

ppl are not, which again leads to bad scienece

and a stacking of mistakes and mis assumtions

you claim that objective science is the one that is simply a concensus among people

no

mainstream science is

mainstream science is objective?

"science"

No nigger, where do i say that

it isnt as it is based on bad assumtions

you can't have perfect science

you can

if you know all varravles

you dont

and some you havent discovered

@ApplicationBot don't fall for it

Just block him and move on

?

He just wants attention

well, thanks for rubbing that in, sure i dont know all variables, but if you would have those and dont have a bias you can have 100% perfect science

we are discussing

He doesn't discuss

borzo is biased

ok theoretically yes

Nazis can't discuss

but then there's the paradigm

why havent i blocked you yet borzo?

and after that there's base assumptions

you van have perfect vabase assumtions

I've already blocked you, so go ahead @Deleted User

well, what are those

what even is an assumption

lmao

@Borzo says he blocked me in response on the so called blocked msg he dindt read 😄

what is language that creates an assumption

Just because you're blocked doesn't mean I can't read your messages

One quick tap and then I can read it then close it

we;;

Gives me the choice on whether you're worth my time or not

assuption is not certain its a assumtion

so you need to taak scienece and find out if those assumtions are correct

to get 100% accuracy you need to know all the varrbles

Like you are not worth my time any more borzo

i didnt block you as you show that you are at least a half wit

well

godel's incompletness theorem

sure but that stems from the assumption that the scienece is done by flawed beings

also science works withing naturalism only

if that's wrong then its all wrong

who dont have knowledge of all the varrables

how would you go about doing science of consciusness

if you prove it doesnt come from the brain

or god

i would compare scienec with 100% rational thought, knowing the varriables

some ppl just think more scientifically and logically

mainly due to the ability to grasp and analise the many varaiables at the same time to draw a conlusion

what im saying is that the conclusion isnt the truth but our subjective representation of the world

sure, you are slave to the data you have

an artists sees it in an artistic way, scientist in a scientific

neither is closer to the truth

and this is based on the validility of previous made conclusions

both survive in the same manner

yes

artis are wrong

fucking idiots

irrational beings

illogical

**honestly i dont have a bias against artiists ** kugh

i think the world behaves rationally because we are rational

we see it through a lens

1+1= 2 shoot me

thats math

yeah its the truth

oh well

maybe

we dont know do we

there is no grey zone, it is right or wrong

you assume dualism there

you might have a obkective making something seem right, but it aint

if it isnt

an assumption might make a bias

that then makes u think ur right by proving your bias with a biased method

this is why scinece doesnt makes assumptions, nor should a brain

it does though

considering the brain part, it isnt healthy

naa, nbad scientist make assumtions

dont read the articles read the data

https://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/basic_assumptions

science exists because of assumptions

some of those are so deeply rooted in our society that we think they represent ultimate truth

the bias i mentioned earlier

here is the thing

culture builds reality

this testing in set link you posted, is bassed on the assumtion of the "theory" of gravity

they dont state the certainty

see how scinece is honest

it is a theory

yeah

science acknowledges that

and they name it as such

they dont state it is 100% truth

of course

as they dont know

no one knows what the truth is

but science has a leading role today

there is no true test explination for gravity , so it remains a theory in good science

industry has

and science tist say what they have to say to keep funding

dont be mistaken

they are nerds and dont have backbones so there is a lot of bad scienec, which is triggering

o shit my suop

still though those theories work on the based assumptions

yeah baall fals to the ground

but they are theories and not conclusions

yes

their development works in line with the assumptions

what we have today is everyone screaming how rational and scientific they are

"muh u cant be creative cause science has it all figured out already"

this is mainly a problem with society and not the scientific community though @Deleted User

thats just demoralization

its just a shit religion we have

yeah tehre isnt much wrong with scinece its just a method, its teh way ppl ahndle things

man i want fresh baked bread with soup this suck

as i said earlier, just a method yes

yeah, but i dont really think there are any other methods,

you said reason, but i consdier that to be the same with scienec

depends what you need

for the natural world its the best we have so far

artists are silly frute cakes who dont get it

i know someone, it disapoints me that she has flawed thinking

due to feel feels

isnt there are perosnality test based on rational non rational

you can generalize it

with mbti

xSFx types are more artist i think

or xNxx

What are you niggers talking about

science

Which science

normal science

physics

🤔

not convinced?

No

oh well

The only “science” anyone talks about here is eugenics

lmao

well it started there

then it got to real shit

I see

oop

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/494665134569029642/576927053048184832/muqxydk0a9x21.png

the what if your mom aborted you argument is bs

i would never be alive to know

@Deleted User that was actually a great movie

Didn’t see it