A lot

Reminds me of the Watch_Dogs incident.

OK, guys, I need some help


I've designed a board game for children as part of my vocational training a few years ago. I'm trying to redo it, and I'm looking for input on how to make a balanced progression system.

The game is simple; you roll a die and progress on the board from start to finish. However, the twist is that the game is math oriented. The board should contain fields of four shapes (square, circle, equlateral triangle, astroid/star) and four colours (red, yellow, green, blue). The die is the D12, and has faces representing the four shapes, the four colours, and the numbers 1-4. Rolling a number progresses you the number of fields, while rolling a shape or colour progresses you to the next field of the same shape or colour.
Basically, you're teaching kids about maths, and accepting unfairness and defeat at the same time.

The thing is, how does one make progression balanced and varied? It probably should not have huge leaps (for example a roll of triangle or yellow should get you a maximum progress of about six), it should have a balanced set (that is, the numbers of individual shapes and colours do not differ much, or preferably at all) and it should not be too monotonous (like half the squares being yellow).

A related question is whether there exists a way to simulate gameplay (basically playtesting it with a computer). Easier to fix potential problems on a computer than an already printed board.

no

yeah, like I suspected, the internet becomes shit when you actually need it

and stupidly powerful when you dont

I guess it'll just be unbalanced then

it's not like kids know, but I will, and I will forever blame you faggots

I mean, I don't really know how that will teach kids about maths

they learn shapes, colours, and numbers

Ok

this is for preschool

Ah, aight

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yeah, KYS too, fag

I think a dice beyond 6 numbers is too complicated for kids

but maybe I'm wrong

it only has four numbers

but 12 distinctions

the remaining eight sides are shape/colour

The problem is I don't see how one can make a game based on entirely randomized factors more "balanced"

well, balanced in the sense that no roll can throw you halfway across the board

Can you give a description of the board?

well, that's the thing, i don't know yet

I understand that it's divided into different sections represented by different shapes with different colors

i need a sequence for the fields

Ah, ok

like, with boardgames it's usually a D6 and the fields are identical, but the colour/shape twist makes that useless

Do it kinda like a combination of Monopoly and CandyLand

like:
1, 2, 3, Red, 4, 5, 6, Blue, etc

no, the fields aren't numbered

So something like : red square, blue circle, green star, etc.

yes

technically three different rolls can put you on the same field

probably have to go with a displacement rule (you push the opponent a field backwards if you land on them)

I thought about making cards, but that shit gets lost and damaged real easy, and a die makes it not predetermined (while cards like in Monopoly would)

why dont you just make a sketch or just code an ez program to help you with testing?

yeah, just code it, let me open up my code machine and punch in a few codes like the hacker I am

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there are already tons of features of such a thing and basically from what i can tell you just need a dice 12. Furthermore, elaborate more on your "progression system" because from what I can tell there is none, and in order to make such "balanced" you'd need to solve ez statistical variants or make combinations of such rules.

see, I don't know what you're talking about, and that is the main obstacle here

> elaborate more on your "progression system" because from what I can tell there is none

picture a series of coloured shapes connected by a line, you "progress" that line with dice rolls until you land on the final field

it's not exactly an open-world MMORPG

does all the different variants count on the "line"? i.e. are they unique or duplicatable.

that's the thing, there are 16 possible fields (four colours × four shapes), and I'm thinking the length of the line is either 32 or 48 (+ starting field)

which makes each variant appear 2-3 times

and, like I said, if any other metric trumps the shape/colour balancing, I'm willing to have more yellow circles than red ones

but not extremely so

actually, I may just increase that to 64 fields (+start)

although, that would depend on what the actual average roll is for this thing

heh I know how to make em suffer 😉 instead of a line make it not an 2^x limit. Starting point middle of the dodecagon and then choose your 16 different shape varients and a specific sequences makes you win.

4D CHESS

like, you'd have thought a channel of gamers would have at least one guy who knows this shit really well.

admittedly, board games and videogaes are different breeds

yes because the problem imo with ya thing is that the progression is like wtf? so you get a d12 toss it, get a shape then go to that shape?

much like whites and abbos

yes

it's that fucking simple, because kids

make it so that if you get four triangels you win or if you get X of same attribute you win

make the children hate each other

well, in order for that to work the most the board can be long is 12 fields, plus it doesn't account for the final field

if both is one the same place

they go to the start 😉

no, it's a one field displacement, don't be so cruel

if it is a divided dodecagon it wont be

anyway, real gamers just started their shit

I'm guessing at least someone here can at least put me into contact with someone who actually designs board games and may be willing to help

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Ark devs can go fuck themselves for being one of the shittiest coders in gaming

what they did with Atlas is unforgivable

on god though

I'm trying to stay positive about genesis but my hopes aren't high

have they even optimised ark yet or do you still get like 10 fps?

ark devs are just shitty people as well

I’m glad you could bake it uther

Continuing my gamedeving from yesterday:

So I experimented with the distribution of the sequence of progression, and I found a nice pattern that is balanced in distribution (exactly three of every colour/shape combination). I shuffled it around and the average progression if you constantly roll the same thing is equal to four (4) for all of the non-numerical rolls, which essentially means I invented a game where the die is a D12 with unique faces 1-4 and eight faces that are *on average* going to be 4 (the only valid moves are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7). This feels really imbalanced, in that it basically removes really good rolls (sevens are very rare). However, I kinda like this.

On reddit, someone suggested that I program some tabletop simulator thingy, but I'm not a computer linguist, so that's a nope, but if anyone wants to try to do it, tell me about it. Another suggestion was tabletopia.

Correction, 6 is also a valid move, I overlooked the colours (getting the same colour as you're standing on is either a 2 or a 6).

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