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This channel will be used to ask the coordinators any questions directly and for others to see them if needed. Please do not shitpost or debate the answers or fill this with uneeded info. It should go Question, Answer, Question, Answer so that people can quickly refrence this channel.
I'm in the Carolina Stormer Book Club. Is it possible to add a member of the club to the Charlottesville server?
Yes, if they are planning to come to the event
@GreatScott yeah, we'll probably have spotters dressed up as normies. We did that at Auburn and Cville 1.0. Once we designate a PSO, he'll be planning roles from spotters.
You should probably designate a PSO more than a month out
Yeah, we got called and asked for 3 PSD members the night before last time. That should never happen.
We ended up not being needed, but this should be set long before the event.
Is there a reason Caerolus can't do it?
I tried bringing up a security plan a couple weeks ago and the discussion didn't get anywhere, so
I'll be a spotter... I don't really look the ... Uhhh... Alt right kid look
I been a bouncer and kick boxer also
I thought it prudent to ask. What kind of legal defense do we have on our side for if but more likely when antifa and the leftwing establishment in cville tries to fuck us
<@&321389309162815488> Can you unlock the fucking Safety Squad channel so we can organize PSD and Street Level shit please
@Hand Banana it will be unlocked once we have a PSO and he designates his PSD teams.
At that point, it'll only be available to the PSO and individuals designated as PSD.
Thinking of PSD me and my guys that pulled security for The DC rally are coming down for this
@HueTheHand myself or the PSO will contact you once we actually designate a PSO.
The LS will have a security detail for Dr. Hill. Would y'all like for them to coordinate with the main PSO?
I created a special antifa research group on fb if anyone wants to join
Oi someone add me to the safety squaddie group. I'm IDNC with experience with real time PSD
@Erika I'm with I.D. And was just added by Kessler today. Please add me to whatever channel or group is appropriate
Yeah what is going on with the Safety squad group ? I was told I'd be being contacted by the PSO and added. I did security for the D.C. Event for Colten and I do Executive protection / PSD work
@HueTheHand added. Message Caerulus letting him know you're available.
You see the major disconnect here is that in Cville one we had the Personal security detachment for VIPs and then the safety squad to help protect other attendees and that no longer seems to be the case
Both are really needed they both have very different jobs if something goes down
Being the PSD/ executive protection teams job is to get the principal off the X and to safety as fast as possible as soon as something goes down , in contrast the attendee security has the job of standing and fighting till the attendees are out and safe then they can pull out
Yeah I'm aware of the difference between the two. I'm just wondering why there isn't an actual safety squad or any planning for that when this event is going to be so much more in need of one
@Hand Banana sorry didn't say it to be an ass, I'm use to people in the movement having no real clew on how to use security.
Esp after what I saw in D.C.
My boy @Heinz - MI is the only one trying to organize something to help protect attendees and Erika still refuses to unlock the Safety Squad channel
So it's the PSD channel?
You should consider renaming it then 👌🏻 but you're a coordinator and therefore know more about security details and organization than I do 🤷🏻♂️
"We can have three channels for lodging but you aren't allowed to organize defense of the rally because you were mean"
So you make up shit no one ever said like the kikes? Like I said, talk to Eli. I'm not stopping you from organizing in the rarely used <#321395356216590347> channel.
Weird language policing happening
God damn stop
She helped organize Charlottesville 1.0.
How prepared for a fight should I come? I could make some anti-irritant solution to hand out in case of pepper spray attacks
The more prepared you are, the more likely not to be messed with.
Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.
Why am I getting tagged and then bitched at for responding to the sarcastic fucking women who I had no desire to speak to anyway? @MadDimension
It was Morrigan who tagged me first to be fair
It doesn't matter. It's over now. Pretend like Erika isn't here and vice-versa
Could we have a channel for media? I'd like to get in contact with anyone else shooting video.
We’ve been talking via message.
@Herrenvolk - MD put out an @ everyone in the <#321382080145522700> channel. I know Blake is one of the people shooting professional footage.
Wait, we can't have our faces covered?
It's illegal as hell to wear a mask, I'd guess clear face shield would be fine.
The anti mask laws are posted in the VA laws board.
Yeah, I saw them
Maybe I'll dye my hair instead, then
oy vey my NAP has been violated
We were just making your job easier by answering the questions we could. Sorry @Erika
I do appreciate you guys answered questions that have been answered many times already, just no covos in here. That's all.
Sorry I hate to waste the time of an event coordinator.
Here are Identity Evropa approved helmets, gloves, and a shield.
HELMET W/FACE GUARD:
HELMET W/FACE GUARD:
HELMET W/O FACE GUARD:
Skateboard helmet would work
Those bottom two would not.
By work I mean legally
That's not the type of shield we need or that would be useful. Instructions on building a proper shield are in the doc in the <#321379234977153034> channel.
Oh yeah, any place with a no mask law, you can't wear the top two helmets. Like you said, the skateboard helmet will be the best option for this event.
It's going to be great watching Antifa show up with masks and get a felony charge. I hope everyone has read the laws and understand how strict Virginia really is. Wouldn't want anyone here to face felony charges.
Careful with the face shields. I don't doubt the cops would enforce the no mask law if you had your shield flipped down on that helmet. I could be wrong, but with how strict they're being about faces being obstructed, I'd think they'd count that as a mask.
You could always call the pd and ask for clarification
Good idea. We'll get that cleared up.
The Anti Mask laws are against concealing your identity. A clear face shield should be fine.
@crockett Rex is going to ask the police chief to confirm whether clear face shields are okay or not, so I'll have an answer for that question soon.
They arrested a guy for dressing up as the joker. The law will mean what they want it to mean
Does it say anything about patriotic face paint?
i wouldn't risk it
Like... the timeline basically
We haven't set arranged speaker times yet. We'll be setting that up within the next week or so.
Okay sounds good
has anyone thought about general logistics? We are going to need a first aid station, water to hand out, comms co-ordination etc.
@Kurt I'm already taking care of organizing the medical end of things. We'll have EMTs, medics, and first aid/CPR certified individuals on staff. We can probably have a water station, but I've just advised my people to bring a couple bottles of water with them. Comms coordination would be up to the <@&330422727447937024> and @Heinz - MI
We should have bottles of water to hand out for sure.
Heat is our most dangerous enemy
Nobody thought about that in DC, and I am suprised that we didn't have heat casualties.
I can bring an ez-up if needed too
@Kurt okay thank you. I'll talk with the other coordinators to set up having water available for everyone.
Not sure if this is too out in the open, but someone let me know what intel regarding the need for burners and cash only? Well aware of need in certain instances, but antifa?
if you're concerned about doxing and plan on going out using a card might not be the best idea
@WhiteTrash True, but almost always needed for hotel. Are there concerns of hotel employees handing over info? As for burners, is it more just so not lost at event and personal info/contacts extracted?
@DavidOrlando basically, just get a burner phone, or factory reset an old phone, and use a paid paid SIM card for it. Don't put contacts real names into it. And absolutely don't use your card to pay for anything over the weekend. There's always a concern of employees of places handing over your info. Just keep a low profile if you choose to stay at a hotel.
@Erika Great advice. Really impressed by the OPSEC & PERSEC details. Good job whoever put that togther!
it's always a concern with hotel workers but a sure way to get them fired
Sad this is the current year, but all the more reason to pushback and why I joined. Freedom of speech, Freedom of association etc is in extreme danger.
Non of us are high profile like Spencer or Damigo. As long as you don't throw parties in your hotel room, blast The Daily Shoah, or go around goose stepping and sieg heiling, you'll be fine.
Also, don't go walking around in Daily Stormer tshirts over the weekend if you're worried about being noticed.
Wait, why would we need a burner phone?
I think a burner phone is pushing it
but I can get behind cash only at restaurnts
has there been documented incidents of locals doxxing in Cville?
Organizations do send observers to dox
Best way not to get doxxed: Dont go
Doxxing becomes an issue when you become an event. If they can tie you to an organization or you put yourself out there is when it's an issue, If you are low key you're better off. But if you're holding a sign that says GTKRWN or the goyim know while wearing a daily stormer shirt you're tied to that, If there is a video of you punching a commie in the face like Nathan (pbuh) you're tied to that. Worst case scenario you're found out you're an innocent bystander who was in town visiting family etc
They can review all the footage they want but unless there is a massive effort, they're not going to be able to doxx every person there
And we would immediatey know about such an effort because we have so many of our people who have infultrated their organaizations. The aclu isn't going to be able to identify some 19 year old bystanded from some small town in arkansas who flew in to see the rally
if that kid does something event worthy, yeah thats a different story
just lay low if you're worried
Also, I am sure the ACLU is looking for violation of rights and inhumane treatment from LE rather than some kid holding a kekistani flag
I'm just gonna feign ignorance and pretend like I was on a road trip and I had heard this was a "Unite the Right" rally, and I decided to just stop by because I thought it was just establishment conservatives lol. My boss knows I follow Richard and other Alt-Right figures. It could be a different story if I'm on TV next to a guy waving NatSoc insignia though.
@AltRightMick Won't be any windmills of friendship at the rally. Afterwards though....
@Goldstein Riots Interesting, I thought every group was given authority to do their normal thing.
I think there is a general concensus about optics at the rally proper.
I don't even know all of the organizations taking part in this event. Just know that IE, Vanguard, and TWP are involved.
They're are a multitude of altright organizations operating these days. What a time to be alive! @AltRightMick
<@&321389309162815488> <@&321762201083838464> who can help a Stormer club in Indiana?
@Johnny O'Malley at cville 1.0 somebody put hitler did nothing wrong or something on a reciept and it got photographed and put on social media
word is person got fired tho
@WhiteTrash if they did thay with thier name on the tab it's pretty shitty opsec. I plan on using cash for everything
Going back to that doxxing stuff, some people will be carrying flags, this is a surefire way to get noticed, are you suggesting that that would be too highkey? I want to be able to fly any flag of my choice without having to worry about getting doxxed. @Johnny O'Malley
If you're flying an IE flag you can't make the argument that you're not IE
But if you want to fly a flag just fly the flag, wear sunglasses and don't try to recreate any based gook wife man shit with your flag pole and they won't have a reason to dox you
That's all I was getting at
I'm not trying to discourage anyone from representing who they are with. I actually encourage it
Got it, thanks for the clarification.
So what is the plan in the even our space is occupied by the antis?
It will be dealt with by the event coordinators and LE
Are there going to be porta John's there? Taking a leak might be a big mission otherwise.
Maybe I missed it, but what exactly is the dress code requirements for attendees? Business casual? Is there anything prohibited other than masks and swazis?
khakis and button up/polo is good
What about Cargo shorts and a button up over a tank top?
Swazis aren't prohibited.
I understand that the polo/khakis look is good, I'm asking that if someone shows up deliberately negating that professional look, for example with a huge swastika on their t-shirt, will they be turned away or allowed to stay?
Or flip flops and a wife beater tank
I'm showing up with a swastika shirt and i'm not being turned away
@Jack Danson - KG I think it's up to whatever group you're coming with, but might as well not make it trashy. Polos and khakis looked good last time.
If you're wearing flip flops you're not the brightest person
but you wont get turned away
National Socialism is trashy huh?
Oh the swastikas. No, I was just responding to the general question about dress code.
Are you saying the symbol of peace is trashy?
Oh, okay 😃
But yeah, flip flops are a really dumb idea
This is a Unite the Right rally, not a "I get to do whatever I want with unconditional support from allies" rally.
I know that, I'm asking what is going to happen to people who give zero shits about optics. The ones that the media focus on and use to brand the entire crowd/event with
Well, when you're uniting with NS, there might be a swastika or two.
I'll put in a good word for you, Jack.
I'll be sure to tell fox news what's up from you
I like to dress down in the office from time to time, but when I'm meeting with a client or a business partner, I put on a blazer and slacks even if I'd prefer to wear a t-shirt.
No flip flops.
No contact lenses either.
^^ that should be stickied
people dont think about that shit if they have never been gassed or sprayed before
I don't have glasses and only have contacts. I'm willing to take that risk.
I have no choice lol
just wear safety glasses.
wear sunglasses at minimum with the contacts then
I've seen people with contacts get spray
it's not pretty
Might be better off going half blind from the get-go tbh
Where do I volunteer if I have first aid skills?
Let Erica know
I can't see that channel
Is sam hyde comming all jokes aside
Henlo I will come with jokes.
I'll also be doing covers, such as the classic "Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Banana"
Just confirmed that i can and am indeed going, from CA - would love to help however i can there
@AltCelt(IL) and myself will be at the park early to help secure a spot. I'm pretty experienced with live sound. Is there any help I could give in that regard?
<@&321389309162815488> What is the official policy in regards to open carry?
As far as I can tell it's legal in Charlottesville, but I wanted to check on the organizers' stance.
@Haupstürmfuhrer Pepe open carry is heavily discouraged. conceal carry at your own risk
I heard opn carry was okay and you won't be turned away for it
Am i wrong
Terribly wrong. Event organizers will ask you to leave if you open carry.
But you know that. Hopefully.
Understood, thank you.
my boys bringing AKs
ar15s are for pussies anyways
Whats your plan for when you have a duty to retreat and can't use your rifle without going to prison?
@Hand Banana what's your plan when you're overwhelmed and fucking dying and can't defend yourself?
"fucking dying and can't defend yourself?" there is no plan at that point brother - game over @Americana - MD
Well overwhelmed and dying won't happen when you're armed and can properly defend yourself 👌🏻
haha I hear you - I am not counter signalling any lethal weapons on our side. - this will be a good test of agency for us
"In just one year, the alt right has gone from relative obscurity to being one of the United States' most visible extremist movements. " Line one from the kikes ((()))
"Extremist"... if only
Conceal carry works just fine too
@Hand Banana Virginia is a Stand Your Ground state. There is never a legal duty to retreat as long as you are behaving lawfully in a SYG state.
Yeah but you can't use deadly force unless faced with deadly force
You are legally obligated to use the least amount of force possible
And does anyone think a jury of Charlotesville shitlibs will think you were not provoking the situation?
@Stannisthemannis I would advise anyone who is worried about these things to not carry then. I'm not carrying, bc IMO when you carry at these events you've effectively neutered yourself, but I appreciate the fact that others do.
I'm conceal carrying, I mean I don't go to the grocery store unarmed let alone this lol. But that's for extremely last resort. I have other less lethal alternatives like a fire extinguisher, mainly in case we face molotovs...
Well, I always come barehanded and bareheaded, bc officers don't duck lol. But my guys will be ready with lots of nifty equipment.
Also, in VA, if you are involved in the issue (paraphrasing here) like in a yelling match or something, you must retreat from the situation
Check the VA Laws channel
@Hand Banana that was a poor description of the law... you must retreat in a self defense situation where you are going to use lethal force
It's not the same as retreating from a yelling match or even a physical altercation not involving lethal weapons...
Hence "Check the VA Laws Channel"
Here's the link http://www.tmwilsonlaw.com/criminal-law/self-defense#3.1
If for some reason I decide to open carry a rifle, i am bringing my M1917
I'm bringing Mosin-Nagants with bayonets attached.
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