Hahaha

@Sam Anderson which involved quite a bit of labor. But if you're making a "they did it without welfare" type point, then okay.

@Nemets I think they're usually run by Ukrainians in my area

It’s really not. Latvia and Estonia are easily some of the wealthier Eastern European countries

Why haven't the Eastern European countries pulled themselves out of poverty? @Jacob Any ideas?

I’m gonna import flour from the Vatican

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN They came over to do their own thing really. They did not come to be the next generation of HVAC guys, they came to take land for their own people.

@Asatru Artist - MD A massive reason for that is brain drain. Part of the reason I'm so anti-immigration is because it harms my ancestral homeland.

Maybe it's harder for non-coastal cities to be self-sustaining

@Sam Anderson Okay, so you cite a modern trade. Were none of the British/Irish colonists the 1700s equivalent: blacksmith, cobbler, cooper?

I have like. No idea what Eastern European culture is like, really. At a micro level. I made pierogis once. They’re based.

I don't blame people for TRYING to find economically better situation. Whether they should be ALLOWED to by other countries, is, of course, a different situation.

People will always try to do what's best for themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/user/NocturnoPlays Eastern europe

No matter the consequences.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN They came to make their own societies. Its not like they came to try an monopolize steel while living with Native Americans who did not have it. They came to take the land and make their own societies.

But I don’t wanna go to Kiev

I don’t speak a word of Ukrainian

@Sam Anderson Okay, there is a distinction with the depopulated / uncivilized land. I just have some sympathy for former Warsaw pact countries, being whites, and them having lived under Communism.

Huh

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN To be honest, I do have a bit against it

Wish I had more time in Europe in a few weeks, I’d consider going over there

Poland would be great if no one left

Yeah there's something soul-hollowing about abandoning your nation

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN The initial model of the EU before it tried to civilize the whole world, was to uplift poor European countries. This worked before this whole GloboHomo trend of bringing in the Global South because we failed to civilize them via colonialism.

@Jacob The EU and UK are responsible for facilitating it. Like the US is responsible for permitting Mestizo invasion (permitting by not stopping it).

partially, yes

If European emigrants would genetically be predisposed to low ethnocentrism why is it that white Americans lean more "racist" than say, the English, even the English in London

Because we are exposed to "Diversity"...

because racism as a concept is very hypocritical and wasn't really a concept until like 1948

@Ald I think England has an aristocratic class that has traditionally held the reigns of power and it is that class that is held captive to cultural marxism.

I'm just addressing something that was said in regards to desirability of Euro immigration

It's a vulnerability of giving responsibility of managing your country up to an elite class

UK needs to deport their "royals", esp the race mixing redhead that isn't even royal...

@Ald Yeah just mentioning a theory

Well we have about 200 million descendants of Europeans who decided to leave and they generally are not less nationalistic than the population that remained where they came from

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/16/facebook-deletes-disabled-veterans-page-without-warning-after-taking-300000-for-ads/

although now that I think about it, the same theory doesn't explain Sweden's situation I think, right? I'm not familiar if with Sweden had an aristocratic class

@ThisIsChris There is a royal family

That's the image of a family that is like a cross to a vampire for the left

That family!

The kinds of emigrants from Europe today are more on the cosmopolitan side. They're going where the money is and tend towards neoliberalism. The Europeans who came here centuries ago were ordinary people, albeit a bit more individualistic on average

I don’t think they really did, at least not nearly to the degree Britain did.

a hundred thousand whinging cat-ladies screaming in outrage

That family's so white I'm glad I have f.luxx installed

lol

My Gods, that is what I want my neighborhood to look like. Not what I live in now. <:sad:366743316475281408>

I want a beautiful wife NOW!!!!

big mood

identity evropa - the dating app

Yeah, here in Norfolk its like I feel that I need to escort college women to the Food Lion to get food. Granted certain self defense laws in VA are quite reasonable soo.

@Ald Because this is a country of settlers moreso than a country of immigrants

lols

I don't think so? Do not immigrant descendants now outnumber founding descendants?

In particular Germans outnumber English

@Ald I'd consider pre Civil War immigrants to be old stock. Germans were the most common ethnicity among the settlers of the Great Plains

Is there much of a meaningful distinction anymore? My great grandfather immigrated from the UK, but I have other ancestors that came on the Mayflower. There’s a lot of intermarriage among even white groups now. It’s not very weird to see someone who’s half Greek, half old stock Anglo.

@Ald Depends on where

The South is almost exclusively anglo celtic

Old map, but relevant

We were told for ages that it wasn't that important, well now we have hard data that is kind of is

@Tyler0317 *ahem*

There's not much of a meaningful distinction now. Those who are virtually one thing (like I about 80% English old stock) are rare and even I have an immigrant great great grandparent

@Goose With a pocket of Frogs at the mouth of the Mississippi 😉

there we go lol

I love the Cajuns

thems aint frogs those're gumbo chefs

guh-huck

>get kicked out of Nova Scotia
>become a strange, pseudo-mythical swamp people

What a cool origin story

hahahahaha

@Jean-Baptiste they're talking about your people haha

my grandmother was one

@ophiuchus Long Live Acadia https://youtu.be/tUAO66UZ0-E

meanwhile i'm creole french and spanish, but now everyone thinks creole is black <:sad:366743316475281408>
"we wuz creole n sheeeit"

sheeeiiiit

I’m being complete serious Cajuns are dope. I wrote a massive diatribe in freshman comp arguing for the defense of Cajun French as a regional language

I like PoBoys..:

I'm 3/4 pre Revolutionary War old stock and 1/4 early 20th century immigrant stock

@ophiuchus now that is impressive and hits home.
much appreciated

I'm 1/3 irish 1/3rd geman 1/3rd british

I am 1/32 Finnish

Perkele

I’m Caucasian

Most "exotic" thing

i love the diversity of europeans

so unique, yet connected

@Ald That means Elizbeth Warren is even more white than you are. <:teehee:381917632359563264>

hah

lmao

fugg :DDDDD

I’m such a weird melange of things I might as well be “Ethnically American”

tfw Elizabeth Warren is whiter than all of us

I kid, I kid. Finns are awesome.

She’s whiter than me and I’m 100% European

holy fugg, does this mean I can lie to get into harvard too

brb application fees

My 3% Finngolian cries out for revenge against you Indo Europeans

Forsooth!

@Nemets I was looking up Russ, Uke, and Pole shops to find a QT foreigner girl...this yelp review popped up.

I'm 1/2 German, 1/4 vaguely Germanic nobility and 1/4 Carpatho-Rusyn. I just say German if people ask lol