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Fucking imprison all people with anime pfp
Don't curse
Worse individuals on this server
Stop
@Asdrubal They are an easy target if they are illegals, this will cause them to feel they have a backing and a place. The only part that is strange about it is that usually they are known for being quite Christian in their beliefs.
@mamajean5 Theyโre Christian-in-name only.
>talk about and cite religious philosophies
>lie, cheat, and steal the whole way through
Their actions more-or-less outweigh their incumbent beliefs.
No blasphemy of this server here!
@Deleted User Yes actions are important, I'm just referring to the main belief system in their country, not saying they are all good Christian folk.
Oh I'm aware.
A lot of Hispanics are great Christians, I really admire them for it
By Hispanics, do you mean Iberians or Latinos?
Both if I remember correctly
I would agree with you on the former.
I'd disagree on Latinos, anyway.
Just in my experience at least
But I live in NY
So I am not the most experienced with that type
But Mexico had the Cristeros war which inspired a lot of Christian movements in Europe
Like the Rexists
Lot of good that did for their contemporary social sphere.
Latinos are strong Christians
https://banned.video/watch?id=5e1bbf6273de38002b596ca3
@Leto Atreides II NO I DON'T WANNA BE A STRAWBERRY NOOOOOOO
latinos strong christians
Because they sold their souls to Satan. Makes sense there are a bunch of sickos running around in Hollywood, this practice of harming children for Satan has been going on for hundreds of years
lol
lol
satan means truth in sanskrit @mamajean5
@Deleted User Tajik, I wish to ask a question.
hey @Deleted User
Are there any Orthodox communities remaining there.
Yes. @Deleted User
Good, good.
Russian and native mix, some just Russian migrants.
You guys gotta protect them.
There's actually special laws just for them.
And there's no barriers against them when it comes to building churches and what not.
Great.
Good to hear.
Sadly the evil Protestant Baptist types have been flooding central asia and the east in general, with their false gospel and cultureless/tradition less ways.
Have any of you heard of Scientology?
@Eoppa ??? ok 1.31 bil gonna die... no sweat of my brow -
Well my point is you have no precedent sir
How you gonna feel when we pull out the Catholic death squads
@Eoppa get a job
Done
get a job
Price clerk gang rise up
Are you trying to pretend I'm some NEET anti social neckbeard larping or something?
Imagine being paid to be a clerk and not devoting yourself to almighty God 27/4.
smhsmhsmh
Tru
you're a catholic
you don't believe in god
Imagine being a GAY and PEDO Catholic and not a CHAD Orthodox.
yeah
unironically yes
Cringe
DURRR CRINGE DURRRRR CRRINGE!!
Truly sinners will use non arguments
Lies to justify rejecting Christ
Being Catholic is better than being Atheist
At least most Catholics reject the Vatican
Catholicism is cring, embrace the C of E high church
You can't reject the Vatican if you're an honest catholic
I've never met a Catholic that follows the vat
based anglican
catholics worship the pope as god
all catholics are heretics
do they
Sorry to tell you, vicar of Christ doesn't mean pope is christ
That's literally what the word apostle means anyways, representative of Christ
Because it's heresy
I think Christ would happily grab a hammer and cave the pope's head in.... not even an opinion at this point.
First of all because Salvation through knowledge is anti biblical
Second, declaring the material evil is anti biblical
Third, it's against the apostolic church
Why is Salvation through knowledge anti-biblical
Because salvation is through grace
Even if you said something like, "but we gain salvation through knowing God" (not even gnostic), I would respond that the bible shows us that even demons know God.
So salvation is the Christian concept of saving non-christians from being a stray from God yes?
How do you save non Christians without them knowing what God is or if God exists?
How do you save non christians without them existing to begin with
Therefore, people existing is what saves them
This is literally the same argument lol
You lost me
I'm just asking what the difference between knowledge as salvation and grace as salvation
What I mean is knowledge of some spiritual principle or such itself can get you to heaven
Rather than God granting grace
That's a dangerous concept
lol
What's so dangerous about God granting grace
He can do whatever he wants
God isn't what you choose god to be
Or your church
God is God
Stop attributing what you can't prove to God
How is that a dangerous concept?
Knowledge of a spiritual principle or practice is part of worship is it not?
it alone cannot get you into heaven
mortal sins exist
hello?
demons know spiritual principles and so does satan
What does demons and Satan knowing that have to do with anything
They stood against God did they not
If I commit a mortal sin is there no redemption I can attain through worship and changing my actions?
@Deleted User I'm not saying granting grace is dangerous
That's the opposite of what I said
@Doktor Goon you have no grace at all, that's the point. Without grace you will not enter heaven no matter how well you think you act. All without faith is sin.
So once I've committed a sin I might as well not bother no matter how much I want to redeem myself in the eyes of God?
You shouldn't bother trying to live a pious life by yourself without God, that's just prideful, you can't do it
God offers grace to all
But gnostics believe in God don't they
So do demons
And?
That doesn't grant salvation
it does have to do with everything since ur saying that the mere knowledge of the principles constitutes grace
Gnostics believed in reaching some sort of spiritual enlightenment, reminiscent of eastern stuff
Is spiritual enlightment a bad thing?
No
They believed that constituted salvation
That's the main reason why it's heretical
By itself it could stand as it's own religion, but it tries to hold a claim to the bible and such
They were the first Christians were they not?
No
That would be the Apostles
You know what I mean
I do
And its incorrect
They were an early heretical sect
What I'm saying is the Apostolic church was first, it's the church Christ founded and it carries infallible authority down the line of succession from the Apostles
What's your sect if you don't mind me asking?
he likes touching kids
so catholic
I figured as much
Eoppa do you acknowledge that the Church has been corrupted?
One could argue for sedevacantism
But the church itself no
But the orthobros can't argue against what I'm saying
This is when we were not in schism
I don't get why orthodox peeps are so obsessed with accusing me of sexual degeneracy
I follow the teachings of St John Chrisostym when it comes to sex
You guys love him, I know that
"For you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing a holy service for God."
Isn't this how evil operates? Pretend as if its good? Isn't the most adequate way satan can get people away from god is to make them think they're not worshiping him, but god himself?
Sure? This doesn't apply though
it does
the catholic church is literally the anti christ
The pope is not God
Never claimed so
That's heresy
yes but they think that the pope and the church is the best representation of the whole religion
so practically its the same thing
Yes, but also not at all
?
The pope may hold authority, but there have been very few ex cathedra statements by a pope. That's even if he's a valid pope.
Eoppa
You aren't required to follow everything the pope says
That's just not Catholic doctrine at all
You do realize that majority of catholics aren't AS educated on theology as scolars and theologians are? Most people do think that majority of stastements and things put out by the catholic church is in correspondence with the bible and the whole religion
I can say the same about orthodoxy
What's your point
The church still holds infallible authority
My point is that the catholic church is the anti christ
Its been corrupted by satan
It has not
The Vatican yes, but not all Catholics.
This has been prophecized in the bible
Its been predicted and its come true when it comes to the catholics
Its not, this is prot tier stuff
Catholics for the most part are extremely traditional. Itโs just the Vatican that gets all the attention
Have you read the verses about the last days on earth? Have you read what the bible says about the anti christ
its literally identical to the catholic church and its actions
It's not, this has been repeatedly debunked
While i agree that Orthodoxy is the superior church i will say that the Catholic church is not all horrid
how
If anything it would be an antipope
You have to present an argument for me to debunk specifically sir
you said that the idea of the catholic church being the anti christ has been debunked so im asking how
The Pope is a bitch
Fuck the pope
All my niggas hate the pope
(modern pope)
Pope Urban II was alright
It's something addressed many times
I'm trying to ask what argument you want debunked
Typically it comes from people saying the pope claims to be God
That's wrong
Which argument
Or a representitive?
In a way, but not in the sense of the verse you mean
Because mediators obviously exist, just not for grace
lmao no
I think the Pope is more just to give order to the Church and make sure subordinates do not preach heresy
The word apostle literally means a mediator of Gods message
@Eoppa Would i be correct?
The pope holds infallible authority
But that's also a duty
apostle
n.
One of a group made up especially of the 12 disciples chosen by Jesus to preach the gospel.
Wikipedia got me like
Yes Doctor?
Exactly
Preachers are not mediators
Theyre just (generally) more knowledgeable
Jesus gave them infallible authority in that, whatever they say, he says
They mediate his words
That's what I mean, the Pope is a mediator in the same sense any Apostle or church function you may name is
That verse was in the context of grace
But I'm going to take a shower
So have fun
Yea im never going to accept that train of logic
But as long as you follow Christ and try to be the best christian you can, i will respect you regardless of denomination
inb4 catholic egoists come screeching in "muh protestants go to hell"
Epic
African Christians on some shit
"who became popular in 2010 for having a phone call with Jesus Christ"
Im sorry what
Oh dude African pastors are outrageous
There was one I read about who was claiming he could save women by fingering them and shit I think
lmao
Or it was blowjob related I can't remember but it was one of the two
It is considered good luck and strength in Liberia to carry a womanโs severed genitals in your wallet.
We should trust the people who were Kings.
I'd say you gotta be a lucky and strong nigga to aquire such an item in the first place
The entire county is in civil war.
What else is new?
South Sudan.
Yeah you right
question: is there any value for an agnostic to read the bible?
No
Read the Quran instead
Is there any value for an agnostic to read ancient mesopotamian religious texts?
I'd argue yes
Quran is theologically shitty
They have no prophecies so they have to resort to saying that "People will get together" <- this prophecised phones and social media lmao
The bible is not comparable to some random ancient mesapotamian text, even if you don't believe in the bible, it has much more significance and value
Ok
Both of my parents read it and I kind of want to get a better idea of it
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