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2019-02-15 03:16:38 UTC [US Politics Debate #๐Ÿ‘‹-welcome]  

?rank Austrian school

2019-02-15 03:22:19 UTC [US Politics Debate #๐Ÿ‘‹-welcome]  

Is this all there is? Or am I missing some channels?

2019-02-15 03:22:40 UTC [US Politics Debate #๐Ÿ‘‹-welcome]  

?rank newcomer

2019-08-28 00:15:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Yes that extra hour of masturbation really changed your life man

2019-08-28 00:15:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I'm sure no philosophical argument could address something this convincing

2019-08-28 00:22:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You have no excuse not to go to church during November

2019-08-28 00:53:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

@Riley how have you so easily debunked 2000 years of philosophy

2019-08-28 00:54:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Mom please tell me what science has to do with metaphysics

2019-08-28 00:54:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

For example...

2019-08-28 00:54:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The bible makes no claim to the age of the universe

2019-08-28 00:55:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Hebrew slaves isn't science my guy, global flood is an obvious allegory

2019-08-28 00:55:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Genesis has almost always been regarded as allegorical

2019-08-28 00:55:49 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Even at the time right after Jesus

2019-08-28 00:56:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

We actually don't have evidence of most things that happened in the past

2019-08-28 00:56:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

That's baptists lmao

2019-08-28 00:56:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The guy who "discovered" the big bang was Catholic I believe

2019-08-28 00:56:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Then...?

2019-08-28 00:57:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The church is one of the most important forces in the history of science

2019-08-28 00:57:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

False

2019-08-28 00:57:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Let's take the over 40 cosmological arguments to start

2019-08-28 00:57:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Aquinas had some good ones

2019-08-28 00:58:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587029563863990282/616074132634861607/downloadfile.png

2019-08-28 00:58:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

It's not an argument about the start of the universe

2019-08-28 00:59:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

It's about *here and now*

2019-08-28 00:59:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Read a book sometime lol

2019-08-28 00:59:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Only like 2 of the cosmological arguments regard that

2019-08-28 00:59:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Yes?

2019-08-28 00:59:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Have you ever read a philosophical work?

2019-08-28 01:00:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Science is truth preserving and relies on metaphysical assumptions that philosophers like Aristotle forged

2019-08-28 01:01:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Do you think empiricism was popular before empiricists?

2019-08-28 01:02:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

So viewing science so religiously is a philosophical claim, not a brute fact

2019-08-28 01:02:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

View the image I posted

2019-08-28 01:03:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Criticisms?

2019-08-28 01:03:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Well the argument is actually 50 steps

2019-08-28 01:04:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Aquinas was big brained I'm telling you

2019-08-28 01:05:16 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Of course I do Addie

2019-08-28 01:05:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Perception, the argument is actually Aristotle's yes

2019-08-28 01:05:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

He just advanced it

2019-08-28 01:06:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

@Riley original sin is actually more complex than "Adam sinned lol", it regards separation from the divine essence and such that I'm not too read up on, but I would recommend it

2019-08-28 01:08:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

But atheists an protestants alike need to chill with the sola scriptura bs

2019-08-28 01:09:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Literally self refuting

2019-08-28 01:12:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

"How do you construct an effective tradition without this allegorical chapter in one book of thousands of church doctrinal decisions"

2019-08-28 13:51:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Granted it's a bunch of pagans with a completely different language

2019-08-28 13:52:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Your the same type of person who calls Christian holidays pagan because they sound like some irrelevant ritual practiced completely differently in a different language

2019-08-28 13:53:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I just have Evola bc he's aesthetic

2019-08-28 15:36:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

If Brexit was for (them), then the media machines, finance, etc would be supporting it

2019-08-29 21:30:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

@Bogatyr Bogumir there are many things meant literally, and many meant figuratively in the old testament. In both cases you should take away the moral teachings anyways.

2019-08-30 02:13:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

@Riley well yes, this is meant to be taken as literal. A child who is so deep seated in rebellion that he is physically/financially damaging his parents without remorse, back then that would literally tear the nation and family apart. You quote the ceremonial law, which God specified would not fit us today, and pretend it debunks anything

2019-08-30 02:13:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Typical of anti theists

2019-08-30 03:29:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

T

2019-08-30 04:02:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

@Riley go live in 2000 BC and talk then, otherwise bring relevant philosophy or theology

2019-08-30 04:05:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You haven't?

2019-08-30 04:05:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I elaborated it would literally tear the nation apart, and you said "so what :("

2019-08-30 04:06:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

If the kids hate God, their parents, and refuse any other options

2019-08-30 04:06:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Do you believe morality is subjective?

2019-08-30 04:07:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

So what metric are you using to say it's immoral?

2019-08-30 04:07:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Actually that is a very common thing in history

2019-08-30 04:07:49 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

So answer my question

2019-08-30 04:08:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Exactly?

2019-08-30 04:08:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Like in a council of elders?

2019-08-30 04:08:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You didn't just kill the child

2019-08-30 04:09:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

He was put before the council of elders

2019-08-30 04:09:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

It was a lengthy process

2019-08-30 04:09:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Not impulsive at all

2019-08-30 04:09:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Did you even read the chapter

2019-08-30 04:10:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

>not reading the most influential work of literature on the planet

2019-08-30 04:10:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Brainlet

2019-08-30 04:10:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Go be an atheist somewhere else aut

2019-08-30 04:11:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

So could a three year old

2019-08-30 04:11:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Yet you can't read something relevant to what you're debating?

2019-08-30 04:12:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Let alone the Summa Theologica or thousands of years of Church theology and doctrinal decisions

2019-08-30 04:12:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

New Atheism is so bad

2019-08-30 04:13:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

So have you ever read a book on philosophy?

2019-08-30 04:15:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I'm guessing you aren't aware that science itself relies on metaphysical axioms and assumptions that philosophers of religion and such carved out?

2019-08-30 04:15:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You pretend as if science answers anything

2019-08-30 04:15:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

So?

2019-08-30 04:16:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Not by itself

2019-08-30 04:16:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Are you telling me science sits alone as a metaphysical system?

2019-08-30 04:17:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Does math exist?

2019-08-30 04:17:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Does logic exist?

2019-08-30 04:17:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

So you like philosophers like Aristotle? The founder of modern logic

2019-08-30 04:18:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

As well as the biggest inspiration of the scholastic school

2019-08-30 04:18:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You don't understand science is useless to answering most questions

2019-08-30 04:18:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

And you are out of your league speaking theology

2019-08-30 04:18:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The nature of being

2019-08-30 04:18:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

What *is* is

2019-08-30 04:18:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Hylomorphism, idealism, dualism, etc

2019-08-30 04:20:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Go larp as a scientist while theists use our brain

2019-08-30 04:20:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

When did you publish your last academic paper?

2019-08-30 04:21:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587029563863990282/616849840093003815/downloadfile.png

2019-08-30 04:21:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Sure, does pure logistics resemble lore?

2019-08-30 04:21:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

No

2019-08-30 04:21:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Do model systems resemble lore

2019-08-30 04:21:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

No

2019-08-30 04:21:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Your are simply not equipped to debate theists, admit it

2019-08-30 04:22:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

In any shape or form you are a brainlet

2019-08-30 04:22:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You aren't interested in rational thought

2019-08-30 04:22:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You said so yourself

2019-08-30 04:23:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Logic is truth preserving, not finding

2019-08-30 04:24:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

>sola scriptura

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