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?rank Austrian school
Is this all there is? Or am I missing some channels?
?rank newcomer
Yes that extra hour of masturbation really changed your life man
I'm sure no philosophical argument could address something this convincing
You have no excuse not to go to church during November
@Riley how have you so easily debunked 2000 years of philosophy
Mom please tell me what science has to do with metaphysics
For example...
The bible makes no claim to the age of the universe
Hebrew slaves isn't science my guy, global flood is an obvious allegory
Genesis has almost always been regarded as allegorical
Even at the time right after Jesus
We actually don't have evidence of most things that happened in the past
That's baptists lmao
The guy who "discovered" the big bang was Catholic I believe
Then...?
The church is one of the most important forces in the history of science
False
Let's take the over 40 cosmological arguments to start
Aquinas had some good ones
It's not an argument about the start of the universe
It's about *here and now*
Read a book sometime lol
Only like 2 of the cosmological arguments regard that
Yes?
Have you ever read a philosophical work?
Science is truth preserving and relies on metaphysical assumptions that philosophers like Aristotle forged
Do you think empiricism was popular before empiricists?
So viewing science so religiously is a philosophical claim, not a brute fact
View the image I posted
Criticisms?
Well the argument is actually 50 steps
Aquinas was big brained I'm telling you
Of course I do Addie
Perception, the argument is actually Aristotle's yes
He just advanced it
@Riley original sin is actually more complex than "Adam sinned lol", it regards separation from the divine essence and such that I'm not too read up on, but I would recommend it
But atheists an protestants alike need to chill with the sola scriptura bs
Literally self refuting
"How do you construct an effective tradition without this allegorical chapter in one book of thousands of church doctrinal decisions"
Granted it's a bunch of pagans with a completely different language
Your the same type of person who calls Christian holidays pagan because they sound like some irrelevant ritual practiced completely differently in a different language
I just have Evola bc he's aesthetic
If Brexit was for (them), then the media machines, finance, etc would be supporting it
@Bogatyr Bogumir there are many things meant literally, and many meant figuratively in the old testament. In both cases you should take away the moral teachings anyways.
@Riley well yes, this is meant to be taken as literal. A child who is so deep seated in rebellion that he is physically/financially damaging his parents without remorse, back then that would literally tear the nation and family apart. You quote the ceremonial law, which God specified would not fit us today, and pretend it debunks anything
Typical of anti theists
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@Riley go live in 2000 BC and talk then, otherwise bring relevant philosophy or theology
You haven't?
I elaborated it would literally tear the nation apart, and you said "so what :("
If the kids hate God, their parents, and refuse any other options
Do you believe morality is subjective?
So what metric are you using to say it's immoral?
Actually that is a very common thing in history
So answer my question
Exactly?
Like in a council of elders?
You didn't just kill the child
He was put before the council of elders
It was a lengthy process
Not impulsive at all
Did you even read the chapter
>not reading the most influential work of literature on the planet
Brainlet
Go be an atheist somewhere else aut
So could a three year old
Yet you can't read something relevant to what you're debating?
Let alone the Summa Theologica or thousands of years of Church theology and doctrinal decisions
New Atheism is so bad
So have you ever read a book on philosophy?
I'm guessing you aren't aware that science itself relies on metaphysical axioms and assumptions that philosophers of religion and such carved out?
You pretend as if science answers anything
So?
Not by itself
Are you telling me science sits alone as a metaphysical system?
Does math exist?
Does logic exist?
So you like philosophers like Aristotle? The founder of modern logic
As well as the biggest inspiration of the scholastic school
You don't understand science is useless to answering most questions
And you are out of your league speaking theology
The nature of being
What *is* is
Hylomorphism, idealism, dualism, etc
Go larp as a scientist while theists use our brain
When did you publish your last academic paper?
Sure, does pure logistics resemble lore?
No
Do model systems resemble lore
No
Your are simply not equipped to debate theists, admit it
In any shape or form you are a brainlet
You aren't interested in rational thought
You said so yourself
Logic is truth preserving, not finding
>sola scriptura
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