Truly sinners will use non arguments

Lies to justify rejecting Christ

Being Catholic is better than being Atheist

At least most Catholics reject the Vatican

Catholicism is cring, embrace the C of E high church

You can't reject the Vatican if you're an honest catholic

I've never met a Catholic that follows the vat

based anglican

catholics worship the pope as god

all catholics are heretics

do they

Sorry to tell you, vicar of Christ doesn't mean pope is christ

That's literally what the word apostle means anyways, representative of Christ

why shouldn't i be a gnostic @Eoppa

Because it's heresy

I think Christ would happily grab a hammer and cave the pope's head in.... not even an opinion at this point.

why is it heresy @Eoppa

First of all because Salvation through knowledge is anti biblical

Second, declaring the material evil is anti biblical

Third, it's against the apostolic church

Why is Salvation through knowledge anti-biblical

Because salvation is through grace

Even if you said something like, "but we gain salvation through knowing God" (not even gnostic), I would respond that the bible shows us that even demons know God.

So salvation is the Christian concept of saving non-christians from being a stray from God yes?

How do you save non Christians without them knowing what God is or if God exists?

How do you save non christians without them existing to begin with
Therefore, people existing is what saves them

This is literally the same argument lol

You lost me

I'm just asking what the difference between knowledge as salvation and grace as salvation

What I mean is knowledge of some spiritual principle or such itself can get you to heaven

Rather than God granting grace

That's a dangerous concept

lol

What's so dangerous about God granting grace

He can do whatever he wants

God isn't what you choose god to be

Or your church

God is God

Stop attributing what you can't prove to God