Message from @Eoppa

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2020-01-13 23:22:10 UTC  

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2020-01-13 23:22:40 UTC  

Sorry to tell you, vicar of Christ doesn't mean pope is christ

2020-01-13 23:23:02 UTC  

That's literally what the word apostle means anyways, representative of Christ

2020-01-13 23:23:17 UTC  

why shouldn't i be a gnostic @Eoppa

2020-01-13 23:23:29 UTC  

Because it's heresy

2020-01-13 23:23:53 UTC  

I think Christ would happily grab a hammer and cave the pope's head in.... not even an opinion at this point.

2020-01-13 23:24:06 UTC  

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2020-01-13 23:24:23 UTC  

why is it heresy @Eoppa

2020-01-13 23:31:33 UTC  

First of all because Salvation through knowledge is anti biblical

2020-01-13 23:32:25 UTC  

Second, declaring the material evil is anti biblical

2020-01-13 23:32:41 UTC  

Third, it's against the apostolic church

2020-01-13 23:50:06 UTC  

Why is Salvation through knowledge anti-biblical

2020-01-13 23:51:10 UTC  

Because salvation is through grace

2020-01-13 23:52:16 UTC  

Even if you said something like, "but we gain salvation through knowing God" (not even gnostic), I would respond that the bible shows us that even demons know God.

2020-01-13 23:55:09 UTC  

So salvation is the Christian concept of saving non-christians from being a stray from God yes?

2020-01-13 23:58:34 UTC  

How do you save non Christians without them knowing what God is or if God exists?

2020-01-13 23:59:29 UTC  

How do you save non christians without them existing to begin with
Therefore, people existing is what saves them

2020-01-13 23:59:33 UTC  

This is literally the same argument lol

2020-01-14 00:02:19 UTC  

You lost me

2020-01-14 00:03:06 UTC  

I'm just asking what the difference between knowledge as salvation and grace as salvation

2020-01-14 00:58:27 UTC  

What I mean is knowledge of some spiritual principle or such itself can get you to heaven

2020-01-14 00:58:35 UTC  

Rather than God granting grace

2020-01-14 00:58:53 UTC  

That's a dangerous concept

2020-01-14 01:08:11 UTC  

lol

2020-01-14 01:08:23 UTC  

What's so dangerous about God granting grace

2020-01-14 01:08:27 UTC  

He can do whatever he wants

2020-01-14 01:08:38 UTC  

God isn't what you choose god to be

2020-01-14 01:08:40 UTC  

Or your church

2020-01-14 01:08:43 UTC  

God is God

2020-01-14 01:08:52 UTC  

Stop attributing what you can't prove to God

2020-01-14 01:22:03 UTC  

How is that a dangerous concept?

2020-01-14 01:24:53 UTC  

Knowledge of a spiritual principle or practice is part of worship is it not?

2020-01-14 01:29:25 UTC  

it alone cannot get you into heaven

2020-01-14 01:29:31 UTC  

mortal sins exist

2020-01-14 01:29:32 UTC  

hello?

2020-01-14 01:30:08 UTC  

demons know spiritual principles and so does satan

2020-01-14 01:36:00 UTC  

What does demons and Satan knowing that have to do with anything

2020-01-14 01:36:10 UTC  

They stood against God did they not

2020-01-14 01:37:12 UTC  

If I commit a mortal sin is there no redemption I can attain through worship and changing my actions?

2020-01-14 01:37:13 UTC  

@Deleted User I'm not saying granting grace is dangerous

2020-01-14 01:37:21 UTC  

That's the opposite of what I said