Message from @Doktor Goon
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And?
That doesn't grant salvation
it does have to do with everything since ur saying that the mere knowledge of the principles constitutes grace
Gnostics believed in reaching some sort of spiritual enlightenment, reminiscent of eastern stuff
Is spiritual enlightment a bad thing?
No
They believed that constituted salvation
That's the main reason why it's heretical
By itself it could stand as it's own religion, but it tries to hold a claim to the bible and such
They were the first Christians were they not?
No
That would be the Apostles
You know what I mean
I do
And its incorrect
They were an early heretical sect
What I'm saying is the Apostolic church was first, it's the church Christ founded and it carries infallible authority down the line of succession from the Apostles
What's your sect if you don't mind me asking?
he likes touching kids
so catholic
Eoppa do you acknowledge that the Church has been corrupted?
One could argue for sedevacantism
But the church itself no
But the orthobros can't argue against what I'm saying
This is when we were not in schism
I don't get why orthodox peeps are so obsessed with accusing me of sexual degeneracy
I follow the teachings of St John Chrisostym when it comes to sex
You guys love him, I know that
"For you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing a holy service for God."
Isn't this how evil operates? Pretend as if its good? Isn't the most adequate way satan can get people away from god is to make them think they're not worshiping him, but god himself?
Sure? This doesn't apply though
it does
the catholic church is literally the anti christ
The pope is not God
Never claimed so
That's heresy
yes but they think that the pope and the church is the best representation of the whole religion
so practically its the same thing
Yes, but also not at all
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The pope may hold authority, but there have been very few ex cathedra statements by a pope. That's even if he's a valid pope.