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2019-11-26 18:35:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@sunman - Market socialism is socialism (workers controlling factories) in a market economy (decisions made by individual firms, which are in turn controlled in a democratic fashion by workers), contrasting state socialism which is centrally planned socialism (decisions made by central government, which is supposed to represent "the people")

2019-11-26 22:19:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

We must cultivate our own garden

2019-11-27 00:35:43 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

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2019-11-27 00:41:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

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2019-11-27 02:56:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I'm not in favor of a traditional theocracy tbh

2019-11-27 16:02:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

The governing system depends on your type of election

2019-11-27 16:02:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

individual executive + appointed/inherited = monarchy

2019-11-27 16:27:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Since we judge them subjectively, no

2019-11-27 16:28:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

There's no objective answer, though, as different traits may be desired/helpful in different circumstances

2019-11-27 16:35:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

In a situation where humanity has exceeded carrying capacity, though

2019-11-27 16:35:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Whether due to drought, famine, or some other disaster

2019-11-27 16:35:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Isn't sacrifice and cannibalism more beneficial?

2019-11-27 16:35:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

It's all about the situation

2019-11-27 16:39:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I presume you'd agree that mandatory abortions for pregnancies planned to be carried to full term and infanticide are...

2019-11-27 16:40:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

well, not terribly different

2019-11-27 16:40:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Appointed can mean an elective monarchy

2019-11-27 16:41:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I mean, the point is the same, you're investing relatively absolute power into an individual who achieves their position outside of democratic means

2019-11-27 16:50:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Nice

2019-11-27 16:51:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Spoiler: He believes in some conspiracy

2019-11-27 17:05:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

yes you are

2019-11-27 17:34:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

I mean, presuming you're not completely celtic/anglo-saxon/norman, you're kinda a foreigner then

2019-11-27 17:35:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Also, it's a tad ironic to accuse a religion of being supremacist, using that as a criticism, while I presume seeking to eradicate it to preserver the interests of your faith/lack thereof

2019-11-27 17:35:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Also nice, the culture is gay

2019-11-27 17:42:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Pretty much

2019-11-27 17:42:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

'cept ethnicity doesn't matter

2019-11-27 17:43:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Ideology, and the factors which contribute to it, are more important

2019-11-27 17:48:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

"They're bad for doing exactly what I'm doing"

2019-11-27 17:49:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

(even though they're not doing it)

2019-11-27 17:49:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Criticize Jewish supremacy groups, that's fair

2019-11-27 17:49:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Just maybe not random jewish people who have lived in Britain for centuries?

2019-11-27 17:50:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Right, but 90% of people don't take religion to a logical conclusion

2019-11-27 17:50:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

and people who have been in a nation for centuries aren't really foreigners

2019-11-27 17:50:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

but whatever

2019-11-27 17:50:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Once you get past 1st gen, people aren't really "foreigners"

2019-11-27 17:50:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Also, prove that a majority of people do

2019-11-27 17:51:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

That's the positive claim

2019-11-27 17:51:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

It's made of culture

2019-11-27 17:51:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

"Britain"/"The United Kingdom" =/= a nation

2019-11-27 17:51:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

It's a state filled with multiple cultures

2019-11-27 17:51:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Genetics be damned ngl

2019-11-27 17:51:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Also, I'm pretty sure most Jewish brits speak English

2019-11-27 17:56:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Even then there's divisions

2019-11-27 17:56:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Urban/rural

2019-11-27 17:56:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

socioeconomic...

2019-11-27 17:56:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Self-determination should just be on the smallest scale possible

2019-11-27 17:59:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

That's why you've gotta have a general confederation

2019-11-27 18:00:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

A sort of neo-feudal political structure in order to enable local freedom of unique cultures, but ensure unity among larger groups

2019-11-27 19:40:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Monotheistic faiths are inherently too divisive anyways

2019-11-27 19:41:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

This wouldn't be an issue if we just embraced state and/or national pantheism

2019-11-27 19:41:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

No age limits?

2019-11-27 19:41:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but why?

2019-11-27 19:41:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

you're letting kids do drugs

2019-11-27 23:47:37 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Values are subjective, so I mean, unless two things are identical, they can't be equal

2019-11-27 23:47:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

heck yeah, pagans

2019-11-28 00:10:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

from any perspective?

2019-11-28 00:10:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Faiths should be pantheistic or syncretic to enable maximum efficiency

2019-11-28 01:32:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

It just enables a greater amount of people to feel connected in the same spiritual community

2019-11-28 01:37:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Tolerance for the sake of ensuring a larger base of individuals within a community

2019-11-28 01:37:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

thus enhancing its capabilities

2019-11-28 01:38:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

The main thing is ensuring said faiths are kept under the same umbrella tbh

2019-11-28 01:38:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

said faith should be a tool of the state to efficiently rule

2019-11-28 01:42:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

I mean

2019-11-28 01:42:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

I'm not really for monotheistic faiths unless they can be syncretic, so

2019-11-28 01:42:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

And yes, that includes Christianity

2019-11-28 01:46:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Monotheism inherently weakens a state/culture tbh

2019-11-28 01:46:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

it reduces the power of any sovereign by placing a figure "above" them

2019-11-28 01:48:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Or operating "under the grace of" said de facto ruler

2019-11-28 01:49:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Ideally the sovereign should be the head of a cult within said pantheistic faith

2019-11-28 01:49:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

and beyond that, a myriad of other gods/goddesses should exist to ensure continuity from one ruler to the next

2019-11-28 01:49:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Serving as a unifying force

2019-11-28 01:49:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Further, a pantheistic faith enables other pantheists to more effectively integrate if they desire to

2019-11-28 01:53:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Well sure, but it's another strengthening factor

2019-11-28 01:53:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

and I don't mean cult in terms of the modern sense

2019-11-28 01:53:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

but rather, a traditional sense

2019-11-28 01:54:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Think pharaohs, or the imperial cult of rome

2019-11-28 03:02:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Secularism can't quite be unifying or used as a tool of a state

2019-11-28 03:02:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

It's a restricting, and imposes limits

2019-11-28 03:02:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Likewise, it'll result in conflict between the religious and the state in many cases

2019-11-28 03:02:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Do keep in mind I'm not advocating for civil liberties to be taken away on religious grounds

2019-11-28 03:03:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Agnosticism, atheism, and any religion should be allowed

2019-11-28 03:03:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

But a greater emphasis upon the state's pantheon

2019-11-28 03:03:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Likewise, this pantheon shouldn't be discriminatory, but generally unifying

2019-11-28 03:35:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Right, but I don't really care about the bible?

2019-11-28 03:35:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Also, I'd want the state and church to be linked

2019-11-28 03:35:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

I don't want a totalist dystopia, in fact, the religion should be lenient

2019-11-28 03:51:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Fair

2019-11-28 03:51:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

I'm sure I disagree with them on plenty of fronts

2019-11-28 05:00:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

that and also the emphasis on homogenous populations tbh

2019-11-28 05:00:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Nazis are garbage too

2019-11-28 05:00:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

as are auth-coms

2019-11-28 05:18:49 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I mean

2019-11-28 05:19:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I'm fine with some auth ideologies

2019-11-28 05:19:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

and I'm more in the center regardless

2019-11-28 05:19:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but whatever

2019-11-28 05:19:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Howso?

2019-11-28 05:35:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  
2019-11-29 01:32:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I really should get around to playing a night in the woods

2019-11-29 06:13:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Stop denying the holodomor genocide

2019-11-29 19:04:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

It was russifications

2019-12-03 04:11:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Why bother with the bible?

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