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2019-10-20 14:14:41 UTC

obviously

2019-10-20 14:14:48 UTC

I'd call them expansionist, ultimately globalist

2019-10-20 14:15:05 UTC

Different tactics, fourth reich

2019-10-20 14:15:09 UTC

they want their nation to dominate

2019-10-20 14:15:55 UTC

Expansionism and colonialism, idk how that's linked to nationalism

2019-10-20 14:16:18 UTC

it's done to further the strength of their nation

2019-10-20 14:16:28 UTC

How are they globalist? They do not want one world with everyone mixing together. Their own nation is extremely ethnically homogenous and basically entirely racially homogenous. Which nations have they expanded into militarily?

2019-10-20 14:17:14 UTC

Then why is China trying to have superwealthy agents in every single country's economy of the world?

2019-10-20 14:17:55 UTC

If China had its way it'd unite the whole of Asia right now

2019-10-20 14:18:06 UTC

Plus Australia

2019-10-20 14:18:12 UTC

Plus parts of Africa

2019-10-20 14:21:11 UTC

But why would they do that? "unite Asia, plus Australia, plus parts of Africa"? Their is nothing to suggest they'd do that kind of globalist act. Obviously Hong Kong isn't an example since they're Chinese and it belongs to China anyway.
If you want to point towards "superwealthy agents in every single country" I think we can think of another group that fits that bill much more so than the Chinese.

2019-10-20 14:23:32 UTC

If only the West was as Nationalistic as China's leadership.
https://i.imgur.com/9bJwaeh.png

2019-10-20 14:32:39 UTC

Maybe you need to understand something about China's expansionist history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=403&v=UWqVzZnwnOk

2019-10-20 14:34:57 UTC

They conquered land many times, that land was reclaimed also many times.
Towards the end of the 19th century they lost quite a lot of land that they had previously conquered, it was reclaimed, and then China reclaimed parts of that again in the 20th century, but not all of it.
Since then things have stabilized a bit, but China has not stopped trying to expand, unlike literally every single western nation.

2019-10-20 14:35:27 UTC

China is not nationalist, if they were, they would just stop trying to conquer land and instead rely exclusively on trade and diplomacy etc.

2019-10-20 14:37:01 UTC

Their international policy has only changed on a surface level because other nations are being defended much better these days. That's why China is following a different approach now, much less overt and bloody, instead more through economic subversion and the consistent erasure of people's history.

2019-10-20 14:37:50 UTC

China is, from a philosophical point of view, basically the same as the Third Reich, just more modern in its methods.

2019-10-20 14:38:57 UTC

It's a similar trick the Jews pulled when they conquered Israel, although in their case it was more relatable, but still immoral.

2019-10-20 14:40:06 UTC

The moment China stops trying to gobble up other nations, that's when we can maybe start considering it nationalist. Until then it's not a fitting label.

2019-10-20 14:59:33 UTC

China had been planning military bases around India, also been invading Bhutan to build roads to India, it obviously wants to invade India. They have the debit generating belt and road that many developing African countries have falling into, also they have been kinda planning an invasion of Taiwan.
So why would they do that? Power of course.

2019-10-20 15:00:30 UTC

Yep

2019-10-20 15:00:46 UTC

Slow and methodical these days, slow and methodical. Subversion over time, not brutal regime change.

2019-10-20 15:01:34 UTC

It's the core of China's whole policy, both nationally and internationally

2019-10-20 15:02:07 UTC

If you take babysteps, people will eventually either forget, or get tired, or just get replaced by a new generation that doesn't remember

2019-10-20 15:02:24 UTC

A painless conquest

2019-10-20 15:09:24 UTC

aye, i was becoming complacent in the idea to start buying things from China, its so cheap! but reality is they want to specialize in manufacture make it impossible for competitors and then they can jack the price up, also in doing this they are racking up a massive debit for them selves. Hopefully that debit pops. And the party falls.

2019-10-20 15:10:44 UTC

that might be a bit incoherent of me, 2 am bed time.

2019-10-20 15:27:15 UTC

i fail to see how expanding means not nationalist

2019-10-20 15:43:01 UTC

Well alright, I ready some more about it and apparently the term expansionist nationalism exists

2019-10-20 15:44:18 UTC

Not a term that I've ever heard being used before, but I'll have to learn about it before I can say if I consider it valid or not. So I concede, you have a point.

2019-10-20 22:20:30 UTC

China is nationalist, but it's a different kind of nationalism than we're used to. It's an assimilationist nationalism - absorb everything, make it chinese. Plus old school imperial and strategic planning (take stuff over and make it serve the state)

One China is not about "everything within these borders should be unified".
One China is about "Everything will become China"

2019-10-20 23:54:39 UTC

"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ship. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."

2019-10-20 23:59:04 UTC

SHATTAP USA BOI NOT CHINESE ENOUGH YOU NEED USE MOAR SWOGANS

2019-10-20 23:59:07 UTC

AHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA

2019-10-20 23:59:10 UTC

But seriously...

2019-10-21 10:07:53 UTC

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2019-10-21 16:18:08 UTC

Chile needs the 2nd amendment

2019-10-21 22:25:39 UTC
2019-10-22 10:17:27 UTC

@ETBrooD over here

2019-10-22 10:17:49 UTC

We should be in the debate channel actually

2019-10-22 10:18:19 UTC

I don't think this is debate worthy.

2019-10-22 10:18:23 UTC

It isn't heated enough.

2019-10-22 10:29:22 UTC

I don't usually post in here but I was just having a shower thought and figured I'd share - just how many of the social, political, economic and cultural problems that humanity is having (and has had for the past 100 years) can be traced back to Karl Marx?

2019-10-22 10:29:36 UTC

Seems like damn near every single one.

2019-10-22 10:29:47 UTC

What do you fellas think?

2019-10-22 10:32:13 UTC

Eh, maybe, a lot of issues are caused by human nature as well.

2019-10-22 10:32:25 UTC

Fractional reserve banking seems to have caused a lot as well

2019-10-22 10:32:45 UTC

Yeah, I suppose if ol' Karl had never existed, there'd still be bad ideas from another source

2019-10-22 10:32:48 UTC

That too, Silent.

2019-10-22 10:33:31 UTC

Just boggles my mind a little bit how influential on the course of human history Marx has been

2019-10-22 11:38:34 UTC

I dont know id say that. Communism is at its root plutocracy, and those have been around forever.

2019-10-22 11:39:26 UTC

All Marx did was put a rational/humanitarian veneer over it.

2019-10-22 12:14:30 UTC

But plutocracy is highly unequal in all regards

2019-10-22 12:15:56 UTC

The mighty and the wealthy rule over the rest to maintain their power, and the common man has either legally no voting rights, or effectively, since democracy gets undermined

2019-10-22 12:16:47 UTC

This is at odds with communism, or even with the pursuit of communism, in multiple ways

2019-10-22 12:17:34 UTC

China is actually an example of this, when people claim it's communist they basically show they don't understand what communism is

2019-10-22 12:18:23 UTC

Only in name the CCP claims to be communist, so yeah

2019-10-22 12:18:33 UTC

The PRC is certainly not communist

2019-10-22 12:18:53 UTC

But I digress

2019-10-22 12:37:06 UTC

i realize until the other day that the number of members of PRC is 90million people, so 1 in 16 citizens are part of the party.

2019-10-22 12:37:48 UTC

I think you mean the CCP

2019-10-22 12:38:06 UTC

yep, CCP

2019-10-22 12:38:17 UTC

Aight, cause the PRC is just China

2019-10-22 12:38:42 UTC

yea was writing it in a different way and dident fix it up

2019-10-22 12:38:48 UTC

oh ok

2019-10-22 12:39:43 UTC

Yeah I hardly even try to understand China, it's so twisted and complicated. Even Chinese people don't understand much of it.

2019-10-22 12:40:00 UTC

So much secrecy by the CCP

2019-10-22 12:41:45 UTC

haha probably intentionally, been watching china uncensored, its insane

2019-10-23 00:47:44 UTC

glorious; was watching Arch's latest video, where he points out a Paradox forum admin locking a thread and not having it unlocked 50+ hours later; and guess what? Im in a discord with that admin, and a bunch of moderators, so what do i do? I link the video and call him out ๐Ÿ˜„

2019-10-23 11:46:41 UTC

Did you get kicked?

2019-10-23 14:00:42 UTC

kek

2019-10-23 16:05:52 UTC

"Because the Patriarchy is real and you're only making it worse."

2019-10-23 19:25:09 UTC

No, my children will have my name, or both my name and my wifeโ€™s name.

2019-10-23 19:25:26 UTC

On an unrelated note, have I ever mentioned that I hate the Non-Aligned Movement?

2019-10-23 20:45:53 UTC

tl;dr
real answer: cuz the selfish bitch is gonna leave you anyway, and do whatever she can to keep them away from you to maximize her gibs.
wtf are traditional family values anyway?

2019-10-24 04:54:52 UTC

White'Ass Boo'sheit.

2019-10-24 04:55:03 UTC

Das all it be, bitch.

2019-10-24 04:55:11 UTC

... Fucking ghetto trash.

2019-10-25 00:20:21 UTC

You forgot "length of an essay".

2019-10-26 18:45:15 UTC

*Leftist screeching*

2019-10-26 22:42:03 UTC

Is anyone here a Bavarian nationalist?

2019-10-27 03:06:29 UTC

Does Bavaria exist?

2019-10-27 03:54:06 UTC

Yes.

2019-10-27 03:54:10 UTC

Yes it does.

2019-10-27 03:55:31 UTC

There a BUNCH of different types of nationalist in Germany. Bavarian Nationalists, Swabian Nationalists, Thuringian Nationalists, etc.

2019-10-27 03:56:04 UTC

>Bavaria
>Existing

2019-10-27 03:57:11 UTC

Is this some Discord version of the Bielefeld Conspiracy, or something? I don't get it. What's with you niBBas saying that Bavaria doesn't exist?

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