Message from @DEPChimp
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I'd call them expansionist, ultimately globalist
Different tactics, fourth reich
they want their nation to dominate
Expansionism and colonialism, idk how that's linked to nationalism
it's done to further the strength of their nation
How are they globalist? They do not want one world with everyone mixing together. Their own nation is extremely ethnically homogenous and basically entirely racially homogenous. Which nations have they expanded into militarily?
Then why is China trying to have superwealthy agents in every single country's economy of the world?
If China had its way it'd unite the whole of Asia right now
Plus Australia
Plus parts of Africa
But why would they do that? "unite Asia, plus Australia, plus parts of Africa"? Their is nothing to suggest they'd do that kind of globalist act. Obviously Hong Kong isn't an example since they're Chinese and it belongs to China anyway.
If you want to point towards "superwealthy agents in every single country" I think we can think of another group that fits that bill much more so than the Chinese.
If only the West was as Nationalistic as China's leadership.
https://i.imgur.com/9bJwaeh.png
Maybe you need to understand something about China's expansionist history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=403&v=UWqVzZnwnOk
They conquered land many times, that land was reclaimed also many times.
Towards the end of the 19th century they lost quite a lot of land that they had previously conquered, it was reclaimed, and then China reclaimed parts of that again in the 20th century, but not all of it.
Since then things have stabilized a bit, but China has not stopped trying to expand, unlike literally every single western nation.
China is not nationalist, if they were, they would just stop trying to conquer land and instead rely exclusively on trade and diplomacy etc.
Their international policy has only changed on a surface level because other nations are being defended much better these days. That's why China is following a different approach now, much less overt and bloody, instead more through economic subversion and the consistent erasure of people's history.
China is, from a philosophical point of view, basically the same as the Third Reich, just more modern in its methods.
It's a similar trick the Jews pulled when they conquered Israel, although in their case it was more relatable, but still immoral.
The moment China stops trying to gobble up other nations, that's when we can maybe start considering it nationalist. Until then it's not a fitting label.
China had been planning military bases around India, also been invading Bhutan to build roads to India, it obviously wants to invade India. They have the debit generating belt and road that many developing African countries have falling into, also they have been kinda planning an invasion of Taiwan.
So why would they do that? Power of course.
Yep
Slow and methodical these days, slow and methodical. Subversion over time, not brutal regime change.
It's the core of China's whole policy, both nationally and internationally
If you take babysteps, people will eventually either forget, or get tired, or just get replaced by a new generation that doesn't remember
A painless conquest
aye, i was becoming complacent in the idea to start buying things from China, its so cheap! but reality is they want to specialize in manufacture make it impossible for competitors and then they can jack the price up, also in doing this they are racking up a massive debit for them selves. Hopefully that debit pops. And the party falls.
that might be a bit incoherent of me, 2 am bed time.
i fail to see how expanding means not nationalist
Well alright, I ready some more about it and apparently the term expansionist nationalism exists
Not a term that I've ever heard being used before, but I'll have to learn about it before I can say if I consider it valid or not. So I concede, you have a point.
China is nationalist, but it's a different kind of nationalism than we're used to. It's an assimilationist nationalism - absorb everything, make it chinese. Plus old school imperial and strategic planning (take stuff over and make it serve the state)
One China is not about "everything within these borders should be unified".
One China is about "Everything will become China"
"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ship. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."
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