I am not saying God of the Bible is real. I question that myself. I am just saying a Creator set it up. So maybe the Creator set it all in motion or maybe each light source is some kind of craft. I make no claim to know what is far up in the sky.

Maybe Space is real outside the dome above us and an Alien set it all up. Regardless that makes the Alien our Creator.

When you refuse to consider the basic fact. Is the earth flat. Well why even worry about the rest of the lies sold to you by the Globe Earth system, Schools, Universities, Research Institutes and Governments. If they lie about the earth not being Flat. That is one huge lie. They will lie about anything if they tell that big a lie.

You say the Earth is flat. Why not prove it?

I have studied it in many ways. Photos taken by tourist. Photos taken by industries selling wind generators. What I see on the Ocean and lakes. I took a Cruise and studied it. On and on. It is always 100% flat.

I even studied globe earth videos and photos to see how they were faking it.

You have seen you say but where are the proofs?

Look you will never accept my word, my proofs. If you care about the truth you have to do this yourself. Sorry I am nowhere near as powerful as those who got you to believe in the Globe.

Go to <#484516084846952451> there are numerous proofs. I would not be surprised if you did not care about them.

I have done it myself and my observations tells me it can't be flat

Like getting very close to the water and seeing only the Sail on a sailboat?

For example

Have you gone down th a beach of the ocean much?

I live near a beach at sea¨

OK so have you noticed how the waves wash far up the beach. Then lower and they repeat this every 20 minutes to an hour?

What has that to do with the observation that boats disappear bottom first?

Have you noticed that? Can you explain why they do that?

Did your schooling teach you why they do that?

I have not seen what you describe

I will teach you. The tallest waves are very far apart. The tops can be an hour apart. They can be 100 feet high yet never seen because they come across the water so slowly.

So when you get close to the water you look far out those high waves block your vision. Thus you see part of a boat. It is not the curve of the earth. It is very high waves you can not see because of how your brain functions. It only sees the smaller faster moving waves.

Waves are rarely over a meter here

When I was on the Cruise I noticed very consistently when we looked straight out on the ninth floor we saw the water at our level perhaps 20 miles out to sea from us. This is the reason. Had the earth been a ball we would have always been looking down. Yet we had to look up on any floor lower than the ninth. On the tenth and eleventh (the highest) we looked down.

You are looking down

You just does not notice it

Not what my phone with a level said.

The angle down to the horison is under a degree, difficult to see with your phone

I used it with a long table to make sure we were looking out level.

I question that

Of course. You are indoctrinated severely. No easy task to rid oneself of cognitive dissonance forced on one with years of schooling.

Nobody has indoctrinated me, I make my own observations

It took me three years after being told the earth was flat by a person I really trusted. No easy task.

And yes I would have said the same thing.

I went close to the water and thought I had proved the earth is a ball. Then I observed those waves on a Cruise. The first time I got a chance to test it that way.

I was already questioning by then is the earth flat.

Even after that till I saw Norfolk Harbor from 40 miles away I questioning is it a globe or flat.

I have yet to see a believable proof of a flat earth

When they dropped the Anchor we saw all kinds of tall waves we had not seen prior to that.

Like I said. You will not trust any proof. If you will continue to question is the earth flat. Over time you will understand it indeed is flat. No easy task to dismiss all those who claim it is a globe. I know a 26 year old who is suffering because he goes with truth. Even if you come to understand the earth is Flat. I suggest you not tell very many people.

Earth has not been flat for the last 60 years of my life

@Logad Have you ever been to the salt flats or a large frozen lake with clear ice. When it gets covered with snow it is not very useful. Have you ever seen the reflection in a large lake of a mountain behind it. Lots of proof not that hard to find.

Or looking down at the ocean from a thousand feet high or so. It looks totally flat because it is flat.

Globe Earthers get you to test all the wrong things and none of the right things to do a real test.

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄
The state law that says you can't carry a LOADED firearm in public infringes the second amendment how?

Observations say the earth is flat until proven otherwise

This bot has gone crazy.

The Constitution is clear. We have the right to bear arms. Carry them around with us.

Settled law has gone against that. Judges ruled against the Constitution. Piece by piece they have rewritten it to not allow guns.

The Constitution did not allow the Government to even have the Military. Just State Run Militias.

Didn't say we can't have a military

By now the Judges feel that the Constitution in no way needs to be followed and they have made that very clear.

Trump says otherwise

It did. The First Amendment was very clear. State Militias privately owned.

That is all we had when the Constitution was ratified. I visited an original town and there were cannons and guns all over the place. The Government had nothing to do with it.

Some even owned machine guns as they had been invented by then.

If we didnt have a millitary we would probably be screwed in all fairness

Or atleast before

No. If we had private militias they could defend us.

They could also overthrow the tyrannical Government like we now have. What the First Amendment was supposed to allow.

Yeah but it would be more disorganized and invasion of enemy territory would be practically impossible

The States were supposed to have almost all power and the Federal little power at all.

Yes what the founders wanted. They did not want the USA to become the new British World Power.

i feel like you're both right. america was supposed to keep most of its power to the states

but in the end, the system that wins out isn't always the fair one

The Constitution was a lot about preventing what the British had done. They did not want just another version of that in America.

It was pretty impossible to avoid. You cant effectively control 6 state militias by 6 states while having a strategic attack

*In a foreign country

We did rather well with that winning our independence.

In our country still

Sure you could. Generals were Federal. The soldiers were from the States.

States have no real power at this point. Exactly the opposite of what the founders wanted.

Thata pretty close to a federal millitary. People from across the country join, federal government controls that

Hardly. If all members except Generals were from the State. The States could say. Hell no we will not go to that war you want to run. Those Generals would not have the power to fire the State Militia soldiers.

The President would not have the power to demand troops to fight the war he wanted to fight.

He would need to get permission from the States.

Even the Militias in the States could refuse to serve.

Technically only congress declares war. Its just the president gets ways around that

Because what we have now is unconstitutional.

When was the last time a Judge was impeached? Why is it that seems impossible now.

No we needed an option for quick millitary defense if needed. Its just the UN caused us to abuse it

Yes that is how they ditched the Constitution. Oh but if someone attacks us. It would be easier to fight the Pirates with a National Navy Force. There are always reasons. But they just ditched the Constitution instead of amending it as was required.

Its the UN that has done so much corruption to world powers to compete against each other

That is why now they can steal our guns and nothing is done to stop it.

They can force us to use ID to even buy bullets for them so they know where to go to steal our guns.

They can't technically. They can just restrict the sales of guns to people

That is total removal of the First Amendment. If they decide we are a threat they can steal our guns.

We are super close to having the freedom to own a gun totally removed.

States will never agree on it

They will not matter when it is done. It will be done by the Congress and Senate.

School shootings are a huge problem

Its not without some backing

In New York gun ownership is now just not understanding the law. At any moment they can come and steal your guns for the lamest excuse.

That is dumb i agree

It should be restricted sales

School shootings are one of the least dangerous things in America. Very few die in them. Thousands die due to gangs with their illegal guns.

Why is there never talk about the thousands dying from gangs?

Oh well it still is a problem

Only because the Fake Media makes it a supposed problem. This would be super easy to end. Require that all Schools allow teachers to bring guns to school. That would end it pronto. Not all teachers they should have to properly train to do it.

Where this is done guess what. No shootings or if one starts it ends pronto.

A gun free zone is just a way of saying. Bring you gun here to shoot a lot of people safely for you.

I agree but I dont think most teachers want to have guns on them. School security would be a better idea that wouls end well

Like how well that worked in Florida. The cops hid and did not protect the students. Columbine as well. Not saying teachers should be required just allowed and if a teacher objects fire that objector.

Yeah thats true. But a really fancy security would repel threats. Basically kinda made so noone would mess with them

Safety for the children should be the primary focus. And teachers allowed to carry would bring it. If the teacher passes a course and is not having mental issues.

Yeah that should be the case

Again there were several police at the school in Florida it did not stop it.

LOL - and if a teacher objects fire that objector

So... mandatory

How many approximately?

Policies at that school made the police useless.

we need ammo

No it didnt... police could have gone in anytime...

lol was scrolled up

No if a teacher objects to other teachers choosing to have a gun. Fire that objector.

exactly... so MANDATORY

get in line or get fired

Not shoot them if thats what youre thinking.

No how is that mandatory. Mandatory safety for the children by allowing some teachers to have a gun.

But you couldnt object, so you have to obey or get fired

You seem to think a single teacher should have the right to disarm lots of teachers. Insane.

No... I think they should be able to object, and then not carry a weapon

You are saying to fire the objector

Teachers have to conform with a lot of rules. Safety of the children demands that. If a teacher says another teacher makes them feel unsafe that is an unsafe teacher and should be fired. I am not saying that the teacher should not be able to ask their state officials to not allow teachers to have guns. But on the job you need to conform with the policies or be fired.

If they object tell them to sit down and deal with the safer measures or leave. Its not their choice

If they object tell them to sit down and deal with the safer measures or leave. Its not their choice

so fire them... if they bring a gun to school

LOL... the absolute mental gymnastics going on...

Yes I am not saying fire them the instant they complain. I am saying if they continue to object and become a problem fire them.

One shooting was quickly stopped because a teacher went to his car parked blocks away got his gun and the student dropped his gun. I think he got to shoot only a single person.

LOL... when they FIRST object to gassing jews, dont fire them.. ONly if they KEEP objecting...

JFC

@Cosmonaut! Are you just trolling. Now you are two sided.

Nope, same argument. Whats the difference if they object, vs. object a few times.... your policy is mandatory and you are doing backflips to say its not

he said and become a problem tho

No one should be fired to objecting the first time. No teacher is fired for a problem till it is a problem not dealt with. Just how it works.

Unless it is some kind of huge problem. Like bringing a gun to school when that is illegal.

yes

I want to listen to my music

so uh

why do you think the earth is flat

Because I can. It's my prerogative

welp

same here

yeah I'll wait for a regulator or something

@Citizen Z people are blocking me from playing music

just do it in the right channel mate

Mmkay

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What do you need

Oh god wrong channel

@mellowchromatic post thid type of stuff in <#484514023698726912> <#484515816625274891> or <#484524786081333265>

how does the weather work? why is there wind?

Convection basically. The only type of weather that has been seen to not involve convection is radiation fog. Everything else seems to have some form of convection as a source of energy

**(note) Convection is basically that hot air rises because its less dense for those people who dont know

Are the people here in the "the sun is a projection" crowd or the "sun is much smaller and much closer" crowd?

Both sometimes

I’ve heard both

correct me if I'm wrong here but if we are actually surrounded by an ice wall wouldn't we just be able to fly over it?

Also I know this is off topic but when I clicked on mineyful I saw a role saying "Nukes are real" does this mean there are people who believe nukes aren't real?

Yes, we would be able to fly over it

To answer your question

But what do flat earthers propose lies beyond the ice wall?

I guess, uh, nothing

well thats a little anti-cliamtic

Also on the topic of fake nukes if anyone believes that I'd love to hear your reasoning on it. If so please @ me

Fly from Australia to the southern tip of argentina

You will get there in like 5 hours

If earth was flat, this would take 40-50 hours

why would it take so long?

Because flat earthers believe the world is splayed out from the north pole

https://www.livescience.com/63648-flat-earth-explanation-for-the-equinox.html

See how Argentina and Australia are on opposite ends?

So if flat earth was true, flying from one to the other would require you to fly over most of earth

But in reality you just fly right over Antarctica and get there in a few hours

where did you get 40-50 hours from?

Just an educated guess

Should be clear that whatever amount of time it takes to actually make that flight wouldn't be possible on a flat earth

@the21cat So you're saying hot air rises and causes the wind?
also, since it's rising, it's getting closer to the sun (source of heat), so why does it cool down?

I think 40-50 hours may be a little off when you consider that the WR for circumnavigating the earth is 67 hours

Welp, that only drives home my point

@NinjaApple where did you get that info? also, what was the path taken?

I just searched on google "How fast can you circumnavigate the earth" And looked at the top result

Some FEers believe there's more land and resources beyond the ice wall.

"Essentially, the answer depends on the rules of the game. The record for circumnavigating the world within our own atmosphere was set back in 1992 by Air France, who made the trip in the Concorde in a little under 33 hours"

The Concorde is a supersonic plane

I honestly have no idea what the path taken was

Hey, guys i find Epstein in white house logs

??

he's trolling

If you're going to troll at least be funny

so I asked a question earlier but it took so long to answer that I had to go and the guy who answered left, maybe someone else can answer.
How does wind work in FE, how are different weather possible?

For some reason. It won't let me post a screenshot on here

you're a new member, you probably don't have the permissions

Fair enough

@Akhanyatin hotter air than surroundings is created in certain places with high sunlight (i would presume high pressure spots mainly). These areas then get very hot and the air rises because of convection. That creates a low pressure which creates wind

Bad connection rn sry

ok but how does the air cool down? (it has to get back down eventually does it not?)

In the troposphere as you go higher the temp goes down

why? you're getting closer to the sun

isn't the sun close to earth?

Its actually direct vs indirect sunlight not closeness to the sun that determines heat. I only say this because you are a global earther

I cant give an exact answer for why its getting colder, but its evident through weather balloons and we can see the peaks of mountains get much colder

Im sure there is some research that would say why

could it be because of a pressure difference?

Wrong

Possibly. I think gay lussac or one of those laws said something about temp and pressure

Wrong once again

@Mono no its not

But it is

i agree with @Mono if im being honest

Temp and pressure are related

Ill get the law real quick

Indeed but not the wat you put it

so if, when you go higher up, the pressure gets lower, is it possible for the pressure to reach 0, when you are very far from earth?

Have you heard of a vacuum?

Gay Lussacs law

We can create 0 pressure on earth you know that yes?

Yes

Its Pi/Ti=Pf/Tf

If pressure decrease so does temp then

I gtg ping me for the questions though

What word cant I say?

What the frick

did you get rando silenced? lol

Maybe

Government

@the21cat so if, when you go higher up, the pressure gets lower, is it possible for the pressure to reach 0, when you are very far from earth?

Okay that isn't it

space is a vacuum of 0 pressure

I said that because we can create 0 pressure we can create our own Ozone layer which the government uses to speed up global warming to end the surplus population

Truly I believe that the air is intoxicated by the government

Just to decrease life spans

chemtrails?

Indeed

yes the planes carry them

But you sometimes see disformed clouds which already to a good eye look artificially made

In that I believe are toxins

to be completely and honestly woke of me its probably all a simulation

but we'll never truly know

Dude that's rad

Duuudeee

I fully agree it's opened up my eyes woow

Duuude I totally feel that

so long story short
we live in a lie

Truth be said right here

So genuine question who's going to area 51

Me that's a stupid question

I am going !!

Ayy time to unveil the truth am i right

@Mono can i be your waifu

Urmm sure