so why are they predictable

Because the moon tells them what to do and they do it. God tells the Moon and the Moon tells the planets and the stars and other objects in the sky.

The thing is if the earth is Flat. It is. Well then a Creator must exist. A Creator must have set it all up as it is. It is no longer plausible we are in empty space.

I am not saying God of the Bible is real. I question that myself. I am just saying a Creator set it up. So maybe the Creator set it all in motion or maybe each light source is some kind of craft. I make no claim to know what is far up in the sky.

Maybe Space is real outside the dome above us and an Alien set it all up. Regardless that makes the Alien our Creator.

When you refuse to consider the basic fact. Is the earth flat. Well why even worry about the rest of the lies sold to you by the Globe Earth system, Schools, Universities, Research Institutes and Governments. If they lie about the earth not being Flat. That is one huge lie. They will lie about anything if they tell that big a lie.

You say the Earth is flat. Why not prove it?

I have studied it in many ways. Photos taken by tourist. Photos taken by industries selling wind generators. What I see on the Ocean and lakes. I took a Cruise and studied it. On and on. It is always 100% flat.

I even studied globe earth videos and photos to see how they were faking it.

You have seen you say but where are the proofs?

Look you will never accept my word, my proofs. If you care about the truth you have to do this yourself. Sorry I am nowhere near as powerful as those who got you to believe in the Globe.

Go to <#484516084846952451> there are numerous proofs. I would not be surprised if you did not care about them.

I have done it myself and my observations tells me it can't be flat

Like getting very close to the water and seeing only the Sail on a sailboat?

For example

Have you gone down th a beach of the ocean much?

I live near a beach at sea¨

OK so have you noticed how the waves wash far up the beach. Then lower and they repeat this every 20 minutes to an hour?

What has that to do with the observation that boats disappear bottom first?

Have you noticed that? Can you explain why they do that?

Did your schooling teach you why they do that?

I have not seen what you describe

I will teach you. The tallest waves are very far apart. The tops can be an hour apart. They can be 100 feet high yet never seen because they come across the water so slowly.

So when you get close to the water you look far out those high waves block your vision. Thus you see part of a boat. It is not the curve of the earth. It is very high waves you can not see because of how your brain functions. It only sees the smaller faster moving waves.

Waves are rarely over a meter here

When I was on the Cruise I noticed very consistently when we looked straight out on the ninth floor we saw the water at our level perhaps 20 miles out to sea from us. This is the reason. Had the earth been a ball we would have always been looking down. Yet we had to look up on any floor lower than the ninth. On the tenth and eleventh (the highest) we looked down.

You are looking down

You just does not notice it

Not what my phone with a level said.

The angle down to the horison is under a degree, difficult to see with your phone

I used it with a long table to make sure we were looking out level.

I question that

Of course. You are indoctrinated severely. No easy task to rid oneself of cognitive dissonance forced on one with years of schooling.

Nobody has indoctrinated me, I make my own observations

It took me three years after being told the earth was flat by a person I really trusted. No easy task.

And yes I would have said the same thing.

I went close to the water and thought I had proved the earth is a ball. Then I observed those waves on a Cruise. The first time I got a chance to test it that way.

I was already questioning by then is the earth flat.

Even after that till I saw Norfolk Harbor from 40 miles away I questioning is it a globe or flat.

I have yet to see a believable proof of a flat earth

When they dropped the Anchor we saw all kinds of tall waves we had not seen prior to that.

Like I said. You will not trust any proof. If you will continue to question is the earth flat. Over time you will understand it indeed is flat. No easy task to dismiss all those who claim it is a globe. I know a 26 year old who is suffering because he goes with truth. Even if you come to understand the earth is Flat. I suggest you not tell very many people.

Earth has not been flat for the last 60 years of my life

@Logad Have you ever been to the salt flats or a large frozen lake with clear ice. When it gets covered with snow it is not very useful. Have you ever seen the reflection in a large lake of a mountain behind it. Lots of proof not that hard to find.