Message from @Steve Angell
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Settled law has gone against that. Judges ruled against the Constitution. Piece by piece they have rewritten it to not allow guns.
The Constitution did not allow the Government to even have the Military. Just State Run Militias.
Didn't say we can't have a military
By now the Judges feel that the Constitution in no way needs to be followed and they have made that very clear.
Trump says otherwise
It did. The First Amendment was very clear. State Militias privately owned.
That is all we had when the Constitution was ratified. I visited an original town and there were cannons and guns all over the place. The Government had nothing to do with it.
Some even owned machine guns as they had been invented by then.
If we didnt have a millitary we would probably be screwed in all fairness
Or atleast before
No. If we had private militias they could defend us.
They could also overthrow the tyrannical Government like we now have. What the First Amendment was supposed to allow.
Yeah but it would be more disorganized and invasion of enemy territory would be practically impossible
The States were supposed to have almost all power and the Federal little power at all.
Yes what the founders wanted. They did not want the USA to become the new British World Power.
i feel like you're both right. america was supposed to keep most of its power to the states
but in the end, the system that wins out isn't always the fair one
The Constitution was a lot about preventing what the British had done. They did not want just another version of that in America.
It was pretty impossible to avoid. You cant effectively control 6 state militias by 6 states while having a strategic attack
*In a foreign country
In our country still
Sure you could. Generals were Federal. The soldiers were from the States.
States have no real power at this point. Exactly the opposite of what the founders wanted.
Thata pretty close to a federal millitary. People from across the country join, federal government controls that
Hardly. If all members except Generals were from the State. The States could say. Hell no we will not go to that war you want to run. Those Generals would not have the power to fire the State Militia soldiers.
The President would not have the power to demand troops to fight the war he wanted to fight.
He would need to get permission from the States.
Even the Militias in the States could refuse to serve.
Technically only congress declares war. Its just the president gets ways around that
Because what we have now is unconstitutional.
When was the last time a Judge was impeached? Why is it that seems impossible now.
No we needed an option for quick millitary defense if needed. Its just the UN caused us to abuse it
Yes that is how they ditched the Constitution. Oh but if someone attacks us. It would be easier to fight the Pirates with a National Navy Force. There are always reasons. But they just ditched the Constitution instead of amending it as was required.
Its the UN that has done so much corruption to world powers to compete against each other
That is why now they can steal our guns and nothing is done to stop it.
They can force us to use ID to even buy bullets for them so they know where to go to steal our guns.
They can't technically. They can just restrict the sales of guns to people
That is total removal of the First Amendment. If they decide we are a threat they can steal our guns.
We are super close to having the freedom to own a gun totally removed.
States will never agree on it