Message from @the21cat

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2019-07-17 01:40:43 UTC  

The Constitution did not allow the Government to even have the Military. Just State Run Militias.

2019-07-17 01:41:09 UTC  

Didn't say we can't have a military

2019-07-17 01:41:11 UTC  

By now the Judges feel that the Constitution in no way needs to be followed and they have made that very clear.

2019-07-17 01:41:43 UTC  

Trump says otherwise

2019-07-17 01:41:48 UTC  

It did. The First Amendment was very clear. State Militias privately owned.

2019-07-17 01:42:52 UTC  

That is all we had when the Constitution was ratified. I visited an original town and there were cannons and guns all over the place. The Government had nothing to do with it.

2019-07-17 01:43:22 UTC  

Some even owned machine guns as they had been invented by then.

2019-07-17 01:43:25 UTC  

If we didnt have a millitary we would probably be screwed in all fairness

2019-07-17 01:43:44 UTC  

Or atleast before

2019-07-17 01:44:01 UTC  

No. If we had private militias they could defend us.

2019-07-17 01:44:33 UTC  

They could also overthrow the tyrannical Government like we now have. What the First Amendment was supposed to allow.

2019-07-17 01:45:02 UTC  

Yeah but it would be more disorganized and invasion of enemy territory would be practically impossible

2019-07-17 01:45:21 UTC  

The States were supposed to have almost all power and the Federal little power at all.

2019-07-17 01:46:08 UTC  

Yes what the founders wanted. They did not want the USA to become the new British World Power.

2019-07-17 01:46:16 UTC  

i feel like you're both right. america was supposed to keep most of its power to the states

2019-07-17 01:46:28 UTC  

but in the end, the system that wins out isn't always the fair one

2019-07-17 01:47:30 UTC  

The Constitution was a lot about preventing what the British had done. They did not want just another version of that in America.

2019-07-17 01:49:12 UTC  

It was pretty impossible to avoid. You cant effectively control 6 state militias by 6 states while having a strategic attack

2019-07-17 01:49:33 UTC  

*In a foreign country

2019-07-17 01:49:40 UTC  

We did rather well with that winning our independence.

2019-07-17 01:50:10 UTC  

In our country still

2019-07-17 01:50:24 UTC  

Sure you could. Generals were Federal. The soldiers were from the States.

2019-07-17 01:51:05 UTC  

States have no real power at this point. Exactly the opposite of what the founders wanted.

2019-07-17 01:51:48 UTC  

Thata pretty close to a federal millitary. People from across the country join, federal government controls that

2019-07-17 01:52:49 UTC  

Hardly. If all members except Generals were from the State. The States could say. Hell no we will not go to that war you want to run. Those Generals would not have the power to fire the State Militia soldiers.

2019-07-17 01:53:30 UTC  

The President would not have the power to demand troops to fight the war he wanted to fight.

2019-07-17 01:53:47 UTC  

He would need to get permission from the States.

2019-07-17 01:54:28 UTC  

Even the Militias in the States could refuse to serve.

2019-07-17 01:54:28 UTC  

Technically only congress declares war. Its just the president gets ways around that

2019-07-17 01:54:59 UTC  

Because what we have now is unconstitutional.

2019-07-17 01:56:13 UTC  

When was the last time a Judge was impeached? Why is it that seems impossible now.

2019-07-17 01:56:21 UTC  

No we needed an option for quick millitary defense if needed. Its just the UN caused us to abuse it

2019-07-17 01:57:34 UTC  

Yes that is how they ditched the Constitution. Oh but if someone attacks us. It would be easier to fight the Pirates with a National Navy Force. There are always reasons. But they just ditched the Constitution instead of amending it as was required.

2019-07-17 01:58:49 UTC  

Its the UN that has done so much corruption to world powers to compete against each other

2019-07-17 01:59:02 UTC  

That is why now they can steal our guns and nothing is done to stop it.

2019-07-17 01:59:34 UTC  

They can force us to use ID to even buy bullets for them so they know where to go to steal our guns.

2019-07-17 01:59:47 UTC  

They can't technically. They can just restrict the sales of guns to people

2019-07-17 02:00:22 UTC  

That is total removal of the First Amendment. If they decide we are a threat they can steal our guns.

2019-07-17 02:00:49 UTC  

We are super close to having the freedom to own a gun totally removed.

2019-07-17 02:01:50 UTC  

States will never agree on it

2019-07-17 02:02:24 UTC  

They will not matter when it is done. It will be done by the Congress and Senate.