Look you will never accept my word, my proofs. If you care about the truth you have to do this yourself. Sorry I am nowhere near as powerful as those who got you to believe in the Globe.

Go to <#484516084846952451> there are numerous proofs. I would not be surprised if you did not care about them.

I have done it myself and my observations tells me it can't be flat

Like getting very close to the water and seeing only the Sail on a sailboat?

For example

Have you gone down th a beach of the ocean much?

I live near a beach at sea¨

OK so have you noticed how the waves wash far up the beach. Then lower and they repeat this every 20 minutes to an hour?

What has that to do with the observation that boats disappear bottom first?

Have you noticed that? Can you explain why they do that?

Did your schooling teach you why they do that?

I have not seen what you describe

I will teach you. The tallest waves are very far apart. The tops can be an hour apart. They can be 100 feet high yet never seen because they come across the water so slowly.

So when you get close to the water you look far out those high waves block your vision. Thus you see part of a boat. It is not the curve of the earth. It is very high waves you can not see because of how your brain functions. It only sees the smaller faster moving waves.

Waves are rarely over a meter here

When I was on the Cruise I noticed very consistently when we looked straight out on the ninth floor we saw the water at our level perhaps 20 miles out to sea from us. This is the reason. Had the earth been a ball we would have always been looking down. Yet we had to look up on any floor lower than the ninth. On the tenth and eleventh (the highest) we looked down.

You are looking down

You just does not notice it

Not what my phone with a level said.

The angle down to the horison is under a degree, difficult to see with your phone

I used it with a long table to make sure we were looking out level.

I question that

Of course. You are indoctrinated severely. No easy task to rid oneself of cognitive dissonance forced on one with years of schooling.

Nobody has indoctrinated me, I make my own observations

It took me three years after being told the earth was flat by a person I really trusted. No easy task.

And yes I would have said the same thing.

I went close to the water and thought I had proved the earth is a ball. Then I observed those waves on a Cruise. The first time I got a chance to test it that way.

I was already questioning by then is the earth flat.

Even after that till I saw Norfolk Harbor from 40 miles away I questioning is it a globe or flat.

I have yet to see a believable proof of a flat earth

When they dropped the Anchor we saw all kinds of tall waves we had not seen prior to that.

Like I said. You will not trust any proof. If you will continue to question is the earth flat. Over time you will understand it indeed is flat. No easy task to dismiss all those who claim it is a globe. I know a 26 year old who is suffering because he goes with truth. Even if you come to understand the earth is Flat. I suggest you not tell very many people.

Earth has not been flat for the last 60 years of my life

@Logad Have you ever been to the salt flats or a large frozen lake with clear ice. When it gets covered with snow it is not very useful. Have you ever seen the reflection in a large lake of a mountain behind it. Lots of proof not that hard to find.

Or looking down at the ocean from a thousand feet high or so. It looks totally flat because it is flat.

Globe Earthers get you to test all the wrong things and none of the right things to do a real test.

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The state law that says you can't carry a LOADED firearm in public infringes the second amendment how?

Observations say the earth is flat until proven otherwise

This bot has gone crazy.

The Constitution is clear. We have the right to bear arms. Carry them around with us.

Settled law has gone against that. Judges ruled against the Constitution. Piece by piece they have rewritten it to not allow guns.

The Constitution did not allow the Government to even have the Military. Just State Run Militias.