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2019-05-04 21:18:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-07-02 00:10:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

density is probably a consequence of things falling on FE

2019-07-02 00:10:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

i mean relative density model

2019-07-02 00:11:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

that maybe true

2019-07-02 00:11:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

too small to measure but probably yes

2019-07-02 00:14:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

it's a definition people made up

2019-07-02 00:15:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

i think things fall on FE as a fact first. then, bc of that, relative density emerges

2019-07-02 00:17:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

yes a tiny bit

2019-07-02 00:19:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

it doesn't mean we fall 1/6 as fast tho

2019-07-02 00:19:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

but fall slower some yes

2019-07-02 00:20:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

yes

2019-07-02 05:02:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@Nico2020 sounds like michelson and morley

2019-07-02 05:03:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

they found that earth was still in the aether

2019-07-02 05:03:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

by testing light speed

2019-07-02 05:03:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

then einstein came up with a theory that said the earth was still moving

2019-07-02 05:04:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

but that the aether didn't exist

2019-07-04 22:15:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it's possible to cover an object with moonlight without actually insulating it guys

2019-07-04 22:15:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

so if moonlight makes a thermometer colder you can measure that

2019-07-04 22:17:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

like you guys are saying putting a piece of paper 10 or 20 feet above a thermometer will change its temperature because of insulation @mineyful

2019-07-04 22:17:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

yes so the measurement doesn't have to be done in different buildings

2019-07-04 22:18:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

no, that's llike saying everything cold has negative energy @Happygrandad

2019-07-04 22:18:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

yes, light just has to draw energy from what it hits

2019-07-04 22:18:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

yes

2019-07-04 22:19:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

some people think using a magnifying glass would amplify the cooling effect

2019-07-04 22:20:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@carlito the argument is that it probably isn't i think

2019-07-04 22:20:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it'd be different than sunlight

2019-07-04 22:21:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Drewski4343 yes but that's different than just moonlight and nothing else cooling things down

2019-07-04 22:22:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@mineyful i've read what you've said but they don't seem to explain the thing

2019-07-04 22:23:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Drewski4343 temperatures can be different in different buildings or in different settings. but you could just cover/uncover a stream of moonlight onto ao thermometer

2019-07-04 22:23:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

yees, photons can absorb energy. they are part of the electromagnetic quantum wave

2019-07-04 22:24:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Drewski4343 covering/uncovering moonlight. but not insulating the ground. like, a piece of dark paper 20 feet above a thermometer will not insulate it

2019-07-04 22:25:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

and yeah @Steve Angell

2019-07-04 22:26:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  
2019-07-04 22:26:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the best way to know is to test

2019-07-04 22:31:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

giving off cold doesn't have meaning

2019-07-04 22:31:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

that's not what it means to say something is cold though

2019-07-05 03:10:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@DARK downwards acceleration is

2019-07-05 03:10:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

probably bc buoyancy is a consequence of things falling on fe

2019-07-05 03:11:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

it's not *exactly* i guess, it's the rate at which things fall that's used

2019-07-05 03:12:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

buoyancy doesn't rely on the theory of gravity no

2019-07-05 03:12:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

bai

2019-07-05 03:13:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

it's the rate at which things fall

2019-07-05 03:13:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

globe earthers give it the letter "g" because they think it's caused by gravity tho

2019-07-05 03:14:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

ye

2019-07-05 03:14:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

gravity isn't in the equation bc gravity is nearly unobservable, if it exists at all

2019-07-05 03:15:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

and tests still end up accurate without it

2019-07-05 03:15:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

well fe has an alternate description

2019-07-05 03:15:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

on a globe, all matter attracts all other: the acceleration is g = -GM/r^2. on fe, the acceleration is more universal, something like: g = -9.8 m/s^2

2019-07-05 03:16:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

normally the sun and moon sets behind mountains and buildings

2019-07-05 03:16:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

which would happen either way idk

2019-07-05 03:17:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

the way the sun sets halfway over the ocean is weird... but personally i've never seen that

2019-07-05 03:17:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

i believe it happens. but it's just not that it happens every day

2019-07-05 03:18:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

you'd have to be surrounded by water on both sides o:

2019-07-05 03:18:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

or maybe one side is over buildings/mountains but either way

2019-07-05 03:18:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

i believe it happens sometimes

2019-07-05 03:18:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

it might be refraction, idk exactly what it is yet

2019-07-05 03:19:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

i imagine with mountains it just goes sideways until it moves past the mountains

2019-07-05 03:21:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

IDK agree to disagree :p

2019-07-05 04:02:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

don't wanna accidentally use your real ip ^

2019-07-05 04:03:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

they do it often enough, they'll slip up and give away who they are

2019-07-05 04:04:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

tru it was calm

2019-07-05 20:21:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@Fran it requires downwards acceleration

2019-07-05 20:21:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

or any acceleration, as your centrifuge shows

2019-07-05 20:24:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

and you can define a force for any movement

2019-07-05 20:25:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

but it doesn't require the theory of gravity

2019-07-05 20:38:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@Fran @Wendigo sure, i think buoyancy is an effect of things falling. not a cause

2019-07-05 20:38:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

but, just saying, you don't need gravity to have the fact that things fall

2019-07-05 20:41:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

hm? that sounds like 2nd law of thermodynamics, instead of buoyancy

2019-07-05 20:44:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

well they are related

2019-07-05 20:47:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

ok now i think i see what you're saying. the pressure gradient of earth's atmosphere, i think that'd be a result of buoyancy bork

2019-07-05 20:49:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

i guess things fall, then that causes buoyancy and the atmosphere's pressure gradient, and all wheter or not there's a globe and gravity

2019-07-05 23:32:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@Drewski4343 hey sry I stepped out

2019-07-05 23:33:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@raspberry buoyancy doesn't need entropy/thermodynamics. But it's underlying cause is thermodynamics. For example, it assumes fluids have pressure to hold themselves up...entropy describes where this pressure comes from

2019-07-05 23:37:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@demonwarrior2266 how do you prove gravity?

2019-07-05 23:37:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I've never seen it proven in person

2019-07-05 23:37:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Cavendish isn't doable by individuals, only by govt labs

2019-07-05 23:38:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Steve it's what believers of Einstein believe

2019-07-05 23:39:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@Fran relative to an aether? Things can move faster than c in general relativity

2019-07-05 23:39:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Except they can't relative to the local space time or "aether"

2019-07-05 23:40:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But two galaxies can move apart faster than light

2019-07-05 23:40:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Nu just space time expansion

2019-07-05 23:40:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Not faster than local speed of light

2019-07-05 23:40:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

No Fran

2019-07-05 23:41:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I can when I get home

2019-07-05 23:41:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But it's googlable

2019-07-05 23:41:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

There are galaxies that can never be observed supposedly because they move away faster than light

2019-07-05 23:41:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So their light never reaches us

2019-07-05 23:44:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It is limit for elections and all causality

2019-07-05 23:44:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Except only relative to a local 4d "aether"

2019-07-05 23:46:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Light speed is formally the limit of causality speed yeah

2019-07-05 23:46:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And only relevant if there is a cause

2019-07-05 23:46:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I.e. Why entanglement doesn't count as breaking light speed, ye that sry

2019-07-05 23:47:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Steve I'm not claiming it's true, this is just what they claim

2019-07-05 23:47:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Npnp makes sense

2019-07-06 00:13:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

astrophysics has some theoretical parts

2019-07-06 00:13:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

but

2019-07-06 00:13:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

i don't think gravity is very proven'

2019-07-06 00:14:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

it's easy to believe other people sure but it doesn't seem possible to demonstrate it for yourself

2019-07-06 00:36:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

if google uses a neural network to pick precise results

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