Matthew 5
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Prove that Hitler loved his enemies, and that he blessed them, and did good to them, and prayed for them.

If Hitler was Christian, he would be following the way of Christ would he not?

@Malcolm the Seceder have you seen vids of Justin Peters?

@KoninginTanja I haven't no. Worth a look?

Definitely. Try this one. https://youtu.be/ptN2KQ7-euQ @Malcolm the Seceder

Why would a satanist spend hours doing this painting?

https://goo.gl/images/SucjSG

that's probably what pissed the bankers off

Ditsem! @$P!KY\/!k!NG, you just advanced to level 5!

just to clarify I believe the ideologies were both created in the late 19th century to replace religion, hitler might well have gone off script

Hitler only said those things to get the German nation on his side

@$P!KY\/!k!NG I don't think he was a satanist, but he definitely lost his way and his ideology went out the window. I've seen it a million times in my own life, if I don't do something that is under God's umbrella, it starts to pour.

Classic politics

He was definitely an Occultist. He sent numerous expeditions to the east in search of mystical artifacts etc

@$P!KY\/!k!NG but sorry for interrupting your conversation. I am really not in a position to say who's Christian and who is not.

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922,

Positive Christianity was a movement within Nazi German ranks which mixed ideas of racial purity and Nazi ideology with a dash of Christianity. Hitler used the term in Article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, stating: "the Party represents the standpoint of Positive Christianity". Even the Nazi Minister for Church Affairs explained that Positive Christianity was not dependent upon the Apostle's Creed, nor was it dependent on faith in Christ as the son of God, which Christianity relies heavily on, instead it was represented by the Nazis as "The Fuhrer is the herald of a new revelation". It's not what you think it is, just because he says so... I mean, lets reflect on the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, do their claims align with their actions? If you want to be a PC (Positive Christian), then identify as one, no one is stopping you.

“Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another… while the
enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.309]

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”

[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]

But the things people did in the name of Christianity ...😰 we don't need another Bloody Mary etc

Anyways, provided you with two parts from the Christian literature as per the words of Christ, which you can begin to refute. Hitler was not Christ, so using his words to justify Christianity is not going to be very helpful

“In nearly all the matters in which the Pan-German movement was
wanting, the attitude of the Christian Social Party was correct and
well-planned.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other
great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin
Luther as well as Richard Wagner.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought
to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from
now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to
profane the Almighty.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“The best characterization is provided by the product of this
religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world,
and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his
nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the
new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude
toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to
drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who
then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his
business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while
our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for
Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles
with atheistic Jewish parties– and this against their own nation.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 11]

“The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiations
for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancient
world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting for
its own doctrine.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 1 Chapter 12]

let's not worship humans

Yeah, agreed

“A folkish state must therefore begin by raising marriage from the
level of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it the
consecration of an institution which is called upon to produce images
of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and ape.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 2]

“The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in
his own denomination, of making people stop just talking
superficially of God’s will, and actually fulfill God’s will, and not
let God’s word be desecrated. For God’s will gave men their form,
their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is
declaring war on the Lord’s creation, the divine will.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 10]

“The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost
duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It
will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation
has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our
national morality, and the family as the basis of national life….”

[Adolf Hitler, Berlin, February 1, 1933]

“The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost
duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It
will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation
has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our
national morality, and the family as the basis of national life….”

[Adolf Hitler, Berlin, February 1, 1933]

are you in SA @$P!KY\/!k!NG ?

“Today Christians … stand at the head of [this country]… I pledge
that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy
Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian
spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in
literature, in the theater, and in the press – in short, we want to
burn out the *poison of immorality* which has entered into our whole
life and culture as a result of *liberal excess* during the past …
(few) years.”

[The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford
University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872]

"We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in
literature, in the theater, and in the press – in short, we want to
burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole
life and culture as a result of liberal excess" yes he definitely did that

Should we emphasize the burn? Or is that in bad taste?

ugh, god, I don't want to be a hitler supporter here, and book burnings are evil, but context is important

I am sympathetic to wagner's controversial views, something along the lines of if music(art) is done just using clever tricks(shock or sex) then it is no longer art but propaganda

think in relation to our modern journalism, where previously the story might lead the journalist

but now the journalist just writes what they already know

similarly in music just using techniques without letting god flow through you into your music is propaganda, not art

@rob They burnt books ridiculing christ or anything that was against christianity. They also burnt all literature that contained or promoted immorality (in the christian sense).

still, I don't think we should be burning the books, even if the intention comes from the right place(if that is possible) it descends into populist mayhem

@rob agreed

@Sheamus Oh so the killing and driving out of thousands of ethnic germans from their homeland was not enough reason for retaliation???

@KoninginTanja Well yeah he went insane near the end they say. But his intentions were correct and biblically sound.

@$P!KY\/!k!NG honestly dude, you've proven to reject the two great commandments yourself as stipulated by Christ, you've rejected Christian teachings by claim of questionable witnesses, and now you are trying to justify the wrongs that Christ specifically corrected from what you've (((heard))), which the pharisees and scribes been teaching incorrectly. Now you are trying to worship Hitler which definitely is a questionable follower of Christ... I really do not need to continue this, but like i said, if you wish to be a PC, then have at that label, we all now know who and what you are. And spamming Nazi propaganda will likely draw attention to you, so might want to take that to info-wars instead, seems more suitable your that group.

@$P!KY\/!k!NG

@Sheamus Not an argument as usual.

I have rejected no commandments.
I have not (yet) rejected any witness but question at least the interpretation and provided multiple verses throughout the text as reason. Given that the bible explicitly states that at least two witnesses are required to settle a matter, I have full right to reject your single witness if I can easily provide many spanning hundreds of years. You had NO argument against it.

I don't worship Hitler. He wasn't a god or the Messiah.

I'm not spamming propaganda. It was simply an easy way to answer the silly supposition that satanists created communism and national socialism.

I'm not even a socialist. I am however an actual NATIONalist that values blood and soil like the word clearly means.

@Sheamus I answered your question regarding the reasons for the invasion of poland and any leader worth anything would have done the same. Was hitler the perfect image of Christ? Obviously not. Would you stand by while thousands of your volk are murdered and driven from their homes if you had the power to stop it?? Probably not.

Or maybe you would.

@rob Wagner was magnificent. The pinnacle of Western art

@Sheamus One more question. Are you english?

@$P!KY\/!k!NG was not an argument, it was a statement. Greatest commandment you have betrayed when you chose the commie Wiccan over the reasonable Christian, you owned it proudly. Second great commandment you betrayed was to reject your duty towards your neighbors by writing anyone non-white off as lesser beasts, which you owned proudly too. Don't come and deny any of it now.

Also i didn't say you rejected witnesses, but you do reject the teachings passed on through the questionable witness, because it doesn't suit your own interpretation.

You do show reverence and adoration for  Hitler, that's pretty much worship.

It was indeed spamming propaganda, you are propagating information, especially of a very biased and misleading nature, used to promote your political cause or point of view.

Your very restricted and wilfully biased definition of a nation is just that.

@$P!KY\/!k!NG English in what context? Am I English speaking? yeah obviously, how else would I do business in SA if English is the business standard. Am I a Brittish citizen or have Brittish or any European citizenship? No. Do I have English bloodlines? No.

@Sheamus That's dishonest. I rejected breeding with the BLACK "christian". I write any non Adamic creature of as beasts on scriptural grounds. Your neighbour is someone of your people as the law clearly explains and Christ explains with the parable of the samaritan.

Let people examine the quotes I have posted and decide for themselves whether they are misleading as again you provide no argument as usual to reason with.

My definition is based solely on the accepted definition by etymology of the word and as it is defined in dictionaries that I also quoted along with multiple quotes (versus your meager 1 quote) from concordences to clearly show the biblical interpretation.

The Good Samaritan teaches that one's neighbour is one in need. The Jew and Samaritans were not the same: they were bitter enemies. That's the whole point

Well heck. If you had just said you were english in the beginning I wouldn't have bothered 😂

Please forgive me for boring you with all this scripture and such. You have shown me the error of my ways. All are created equal and nations are cultural. I wish you long life and many english culture babies with your reasonable black christian wife. 😊

@Malcolm the Seceder The samaritans were hebrews that adopted pagan beliefs and were therefore shunned by the judeans. READ THE TEXT

I know the text. We had a sermon on it on Sabbath. Blacks are descended from Ham. Jews from Shem. Gentiles from Japheth. That's the old way of understanding the differences between the races

@Malcolm the Seceder Adam means ruddy, to blush or show blood in the face. He appears on earth roughly 7000 years ago in Sumer, coincidently the same place where the genes for white skin and blue eyes come from. Since Eve was made from the same genetic material, how did two white people eventually produce black babies?? Shem was the father of many nations including the assirians who would later wage war against the hebrews.

@Malcolm the Seceder READ THE TEXT

@$P!KY\/!k!NG lol it's not dishonest, you make it about race, i make it about ideology. You chose a Wiccan over a Christian, that's how i see it, that's how any reasonable Christian would see it. You and your ilk don't see that, because you are material and not spiritual, you see black and white... But yes, let's leave it to the readers to judge, I'm not asking for you to be banned or your words removed, I'm content that a reasonable person can be reasonable enough to see through your slithering ways, and in spite of your blasphemy, contemplating me as your enemy, that will inevitably make you mine, i still love you, i would still treat you as an equal regardless, i will still share a boat with you towards the Antarctic, and i would still scale the walls of the Antarctic with you, as weve entertained earlier today.

So under different circumstances where our ideological beliefs don't clash, we are cool, okay? But i will still continue to correct whatever misguided information you do post if and when i come across it. I genuinely don't believe it in the best interest of this community to go down the path your idol has failed already.

I've come back to christianity through comparative religious study and direct gnostic experience, I don't really understand writing people off due to some text or preacher, especially in light of the alterations made to the text (looking at you Matthew). I see the only important difference being a personal god vs ideology.

@Sheamus You are right. You have shown me the error of my ways. Please breed with the black christians and expand the english culture. Long life, prosperity and many babies to you sir.

Lol you really think that's going to achieve much? I'm curious what you actually think that will achieve other than really expose your immaturity, what you think it will bring out of me?

@Sheamus No really. You are right. Clearly I am in error and you are correct. You should definitely be blessed with as many caramel christian babies as you can provide for. Children are afterall the future of the english culture. That is afterall the most important thing for the expansion of the English nation. Please let me know if I can help with your nationalist ideals. I think you can do much good for Great Britain and I wholeheartedly support the equality and love you aspire to.

So you are going misrepresent me as Brittish just because I can speak English, in spite of explicitly telling you that i have no Brittish or any European citizenship or passport, or bloodlines? Really, and then the rest of your drivel is to achieve what exactly?

You are clearly trying to insult and hurt my feelings, and the only weakness you know is your own, so you attempt to project your insecurity unto me, but it's your own insecurity, clearly not mine. What do you think you will achieve with this immaturity? Hurt my feelings?

If the shoe fits, I'll wear it. But this is clearly your shoe bud, it clearly fits you. You ain't going to win any wars with insults, Hitler liked to insult too, and he didn't win either, dunno what makes you think following a loser is any good, it's evident that God was not on his side, but you can continue to live out the delusion he did.

Good night

@Sheamus But I agree with you dude. I was wrong!

Christians unite!

@$P!KY\/!k!NG @Sheamus Friends? It's ok to disagree.

@KoninginTanja No ofcourse not. I don't mix with racemixers, but since he isn't one of mine I will gladly support his efforts in expanding his english/south african nation/culture or whatever he defines it as. 😬 I just won't destroy my own nation.

@$P!KY\/!k!NG I didn't read through it all, so I'll stop butting in.

@KoninginTanja interesting read I reckon. Controversial. Make up your own mind I guess.

@KoninginTanja yes no problem with disagreement, it's part of the discourse/logos that is Christ. the principle of divine reason and creative order. Embrace it, read it, and judge righteous judgement.

Take a moment to reflect on the persecution of Christ for being "politically incorrect" according the politics of the pharisees and scribes, who reason as this character reasons with his preferred politics. The truth is laid bare before you, Christians will always be persecuted like this when confronting such lies.

I'm out now, really need the sleep. Cheers

night dude

@Malcolm the Seceder did you have a look at Justin Peters?

@KoninginTanja Yeah just watched it now. Excellent video! Prosperity "Gospel" is just plain satanic.

The Tao Te Ching - A modern interpretation of Lao Tzu perpetrated by Ron Hogan

@Malcolm the Seceder yeah that false gospel is straight from the pits of hell

Ditsem! @TruthCanary, you just advanced to level 3!

@TruthCanary All good, Flat Earth disproves the lot of it.

https://youtu.be/6fPnYQrP7NE

Why are some cultures better than other ones? @Willem Petzer @TruthCanary

"Christianity has profoundly changed the societies to which it has come, their institutions, beliefs, and cultures. What has emerged can only be described as a new civilization."

http://www.trinityfoundation.org/journal.php?id=110

Hoekom het daar soveel jong mense die gereformeerde kerk verlaat?
Why did so many young people leave the reformed church?
@Willem Petzer
https://babylonbee.com/news/congregation-prays-graduating-senior-be-protected-from-basic-secular-arguments-they-never-bothered-to-prepare-her-for/

@Daniel van Straaten Want ons het self die bybel begin lees en agter gekom die kerk preek antichris.

https://youtu.be/ZAQBTybv2mk

@TruthCanary I think @Willem Petzer would not approve this video, a professing Calvinist.

https://www.the-highway.com/perseverance_Boettner.html

@Daniel van Straaten "Once saved always saved" is a distortion of the perseverance of the saints doctrine. It tends to emphasise a lack of perseverance on behalf of the believer. Whereas the correct Calvinist doctrine emphasises the need for the believer to be working out his own salvation with fear and trembling and to be endeavouring to live after holiness every day of his walk here on earth @TruthCanary

@Daniel van Straaten Willem is entitled to his beliefs, and if he disagrees with the above sermon, he is free to point out scripturally where he thinks Pastor Joe Schimmel is wrong.

https://douglasdouma.wordpress.com/2018/07/04/gordon-clark-and-other-reformed-critics-of-karl-barth/

Isn't this emphasis on the importance of high IQ and boasting in ones ethnicity carnally mindedness? I'd rather be holy than intelligent or Afrikaans. @Malcolm the Seceder

Who's emphasis?

Willems

I think the whole high/low IQ thing is to point out that there are these differences between the races and to ignore these indeed to act as if they don't exist is detrimental to all involved