@KoninginTanja interesting read I reckon. Controversial. Make up your own mind I guess.

@KoninginTanja yes no problem with disagreement, it's part of the discourse/logos that is Christ. the principle of divine reason and creative order. Embrace it, read it, and judge righteous judgement.

Take a moment to reflect on the persecution of Christ for being "politically incorrect" according the politics of the pharisees and scribes, who reason as this character reasons with his preferred politics. The truth is laid bare before you, Christians will always be persecuted like this when confronting such lies.

I'm out now, really need the sleep. Cheers

night dude

@Malcolm the Seceder did you have a look at Justin Peters?

@KoninginTanja Yeah just watched it now. Excellent video! Prosperity "Gospel" is just plain satanic.

The Tao Te Ching - A modern interpretation of Lao Tzu perpetrated by Ron Hogan

@Malcolm the Seceder yeah that false gospel is straight from the pits of hell

Ditsem! @TruthCanary, you just advanced to level 3!

@TruthCanary All good, Flat Earth disproves the lot of it.

https://youtu.be/6fPnYQrP7NE

Why are some cultures better than other ones? @Willem Petzer @TruthCanary

"Christianity has profoundly changed the societies to which it has come, their institutions, beliefs, and cultures. What has emerged can only be described as a new civilization."

http://www.trinityfoundation.org/journal.php?id=110

Hoekom het daar soveel jong mense die gereformeerde kerk verlaat?
Why did so many young people leave the reformed church?
@Willem Petzer
https://babylonbee.com/news/congregation-prays-graduating-senior-be-protected-from-basic-secular-arguments-they-never-bothered-to-prepare-her-for/

@Daniel van Straaten Want ons het self die bybel begin lees en agter gekom die kerk preek antichris.

https://youtu.be/ZAQBTybv2mk

@TruthCanary I think @Willem Petzer would not approve this video, a professing Calvinist.

https://www.the-highway.com/perseverance_Boettner.html

@Daniel van Straaten "Once saved always saved" is a distortion of the perseverance of the saints doctrine. It tends to emphasise a lack of perseverance on behalf of the believer. Whereas the correct Calvinist doctrine emphasises the need for the believer to be working out his own salvation with fear and trembling and to be endeavouring to live after holiness every day of his walk here on earth @TruthCanary

@Daniel van Straaten Willem is entitled to his beliefs, and if he disagrees with the above sermon, he is free to point out scripturally where he thinks Pastor Joe Schimmel is wrong.

https://douglasdouma.wordpress.com/2018/07/04/gordon-clark-and-other-reformed-critics-of-karl-barth/

Isn't this emphasis on the importance of high IQ and boasting in ones ethnicity carnally mindedness? I'd rather be holy than intelligent or Afrikaans. @Malcolm the Seceder

Who's emphasis?

Willems

I think the whole high/low IQ thing is to point out that there are these differences between the races and to ignore these indeed to act as if they don't exist is detrimental to all involved

And to remind people what we're actually dealing with with black Africans

But you are right that godliness is absolutely paramount and at the end of the day it's one's relationship with Christ that matters

Isn't it unproductive generalizing about IQ when talking about ethnic groups in the context of political discussions? What's the end game here? I suppose some could interpret you proposing that European's are smarter and therefore should be in government. How's that suppose to help us in this situation?

Well I think the differences are real and it affects things like affirmative action policies

I think in the SA context the point is that it's the whites' country

Ernst Roets seems to want to avoid IQ in political discussions. See his interview with Willem. @Willem Petzer I am trying to understand your reasoning behind your use of IQ.

Ernst is right to do that. Too much of a hot potato. Would just be a distraction from what he's trying to do

How is what he is trying to do different to what Willem is?

Ernst has a more narrowly focused agenda: to first and foremost raise awareness of the persecution of the whites and then how the whites might move forward. I think.
Willem is interested in lots of different things ranging from the same stuff as Ernst to promoting Afrikaner culture generally to educating on history

I think the IQ thing may well be true, but as someone that always sat in class with the brightest at school, there were representatives of all races at the top. It's an easy trap to fall into if you are young and intelligent to think that intelligence is the only trait that counts, years of life have taught me that you can change the world without a particularly high IQ and there are many more things to consider. IQ is just useful because it is easy to test for and the tests are consistent (they basically measure performance of working memory and abstraction)

Agreed. IQ is not what defines a man's worth. It's more in terms of current politics. IQ does have an impact in running a country especially when, you know, the vast majority of those in charge are low IQ.

As far as IQ goes, i personally find it relevant in the context of our material make up, which would be profession. I reckon we ought to make IQ tests mandatory in key positions like management for example, positions with high responsibility and accountability are required, and also vital positions that cannot afford incompetence.

Outside of above mentioned context, it is mostly irrelevant.

That said though, it's in everyone's best interest to take IQ seriously with efforts to improve the environments that cultivate and develop those who are negatively impacted. We know there are lifestyle factors such as diet and malnutrition that impact IQ, and can only take necessary actions to address these things if it can be acknowledged openly and honestly.

I don't think it is the topic that is the problem, but the approach. It is rather used a degrading argument, as opposed to a concern. We need to approach it correctly.

President Trump is on the right side

https://www.worldslastchance.com/biblical-christian-beliefs/plat-aarde-bybelse-waarheid-in-onstandvastige-wreld.html

Even the Bible says the left are fools 😂

Ecclesiastes 10:2