Yo howd you manage to offend a fucking bot😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

@Conscious Caracal thanks got it 💯

@Meerkat_RSA So you're saying renaldos bot supports anti-farm murders<:Hmm:480050565167185920>

even his bot disagrees with him<:kek:482910570211966986>

Lol

The bot also prevents me from posting the deus vult meme i made... But it is fine to post other deus vult memes.

The bot Just banned my meme making fun of the bot...WTF Clyde?

I think the principle and context is getting lost with the memes lol, it's starting to look like theres an argument that murder is okay somewhere... Which is not the case in point.

@Sheamus That's the genius of it, it's highlighting the stupidity of the arguments against people who spread awareness for farm murders, the argument is always oh but what about other murders as if talking about farm murders means others don't mean shit

Wait, who tf is clyde?

@Darkseid yeah i get that some arguments aren't made and defined clearly, but it's not quite accurate to say that's the case now is it? People deliberately targeted, tortured and murdered on the basis of their color is wrong, as it is intended. Others getting killed during a crime in progress is not deliberate. That's why there's a difference in first degree and second degree murder. Yes murder is wrong in every case, but those being deliberately targeted certainly have a higher priority compared to those not being targeted due to the nature that it is deliberate targeting and in line with the vocal political agendas of the left leaning parties.

@Sheamus yeah we know, explain that to the left😂

Yeah... That's what tonight's discussion will amount to, coming to that same conclusion. So will be interesting to see how Renaldo navigates this discussion.

Check you guys in chat in 15 min

AAyyyyy

Make me proud with the bantz

I'll be sure to quote some of you if you drop a particularly spicy comment

Gonna be a tad late, about 5 min maybe

Shap

Who is Clyde?!?!?

This stream should certainly be interesting. ^.^ @Rendier

@Ian Adrian Aard SJW bot censoring our memes

Saying "not trying to take away", and then proceeding to take away is much like saying "no disrespect" and then proceeding to disrespect lol.

come with context memes @Apollo

fair point regarding the figures relating to the per capita, that is a good catch

damn, i should have saved them.

why? @Daniel041201

@Willem Petzer 🥨

Just missed most of this stream - time diffs .....

I see it as ppl bitching to each other while their home is burning to the ground

Well caught @WuldGoGayForLauren

@Rendier This is one of those areas that I have a rare disagreement with you. White farmers are definetly targeted for their race. And even if race isn't the reason they are targeted, it is definelty the reason they are ignored by the world. And that's not cool.

wow I cant agree to that, it stops me from giving it a thumbs up

@WuldGoGayForLauren He believes the attacks are normal crime and not racially motivated

That's a lotta damage

Yes it is BS, it just so happens to occur whilst politicians are singing struggle and war songs relating to killing the very same group as well as the intense hate and disrespect towards them, and white people in general

yet it is supposed to be accepted as a norm i guess

best way to solve a problem is to solve one piece at a time. Farm murders is probably the most targeted crime and with that fact the best one to solve first

@Nidalap Rorrim Agree with that approach.

Not every other murder is actually publicly encouraged or even tolerated in the way that it is towards the farmers

@Meerkat_RSA Exactly I was wondering if @Mark Faith was watching a different stream

lol if you are blocked, then i think I am as well

we need to concentrate on Planned crimes

there are 2 things, marketing and combatting crime

well, concentrating on crimes that we can't investigate and prevent(crimes of passion)

GG @rob, you just advanced to level 4!

unplanned

heat of the moment

@Meerkat_RSA the unpredictability of hurt feefees

chaos

offended

lol

seriously?

one is planned

the other isn't

premedititated, and the other by chance.. Difference between first degree and second degree

one can be stopped during the planning stage

the other doesn't have a planning stage

Marius your having mic feedback

I think @Marius is rocking out

@Marius plz use push to talk

push to talk should be default

muting him then

yeah happens by chance, you try commit a crime like rob the oke, and by chance they decide to defend themselves and gets killed, that is unplanned second degree murder... the idea of going to someones home, invade it and torture the family and then murder them, takes a long time to plan how to do that, that is driven by a passion of emotion, measured by the degree of hatred... see plenty of hatred spewed by politicians and social media to support this kind of activity

@Meerkat_RSA what I meant by marketing vs enforcement is that we can concentrate on policing planned crimes, but sometimes crimes of passion are useful for the feelies. Personally I'm not really interested in the marketing. I want us to attack the problem, not so focussed on the media

@Nidalap Rorrim @rob I alays jam here, every single night. But mute me if you don't like it, I won't mind

I don't farm and I don't live in the township, if all the farmers get killed or leave then I don't eat. eating is literally the most important thing in life after breathing and water

@Marius hey man, no offence intended, I like it

@rob I wasn't offended my man, thanks 😂 👌🏻

@Marius I dont mind, its just your broadcasting over the other ppl talking

@Nidalap Rorrim strange, I usually mix it so that it is much quieter than the voices

I think if you put every form/way of murder in SA into categories listing it by what one would be the easiest to solve. Farm murders would probably be height on the list of easiest to solve. Soz i'm 1 1/2 bottle of wine in so I'll just type and not speak with voice chat ;p

👍🏾

@Rendier there are agitprop people out there looking to infiltrate our groups, create extreme far right views, screengrab and try to sink the platforms

the Genocide narrative does more harm than good. It gives fuel to the ppl that say its a conspiracy

the SJW will hijack your platform, and the Alt right will try hijack most others. the SJW and Alt Right are the result of communist divide and conquer tactics, both groups get rounded up and shot when the revolution is completed

Whats funny is the argument Caracal is using is exactly way Black Lives Matter use

protecting the head that matters more @RaRi

lol

hey, vegetables can propagate the species

nice one guys

57 murders a day is a lot to handle. Compartmentalize them and then tackle each group one by one.

Its almost impossible to work out the per capita statistics since the statistics on the number of farmers in SA is very unclear

well, there are decent sources @Bruh dead bodies are easy to count, as are titles at the deeds office

I dont mean number killed i mean the pure number of farmers around

LOL! @Meerkat_RSA

so we can work out per property not per person, we could get averages of people per property based on census data

Its similar to trying to work out how vulnerable township victims are as the number of township dwellers is not clear

well townships and farms are different, most farmers have a corresponding title deed, most township dwellers don't

Not just journalism is Dying, Naspers is in big kak

At the end the media is a company they don't care if they divide the people they make money.

South Africas murder rate is not that uncommon compared to other countries

GG @Bruh, you just advanced to level 1!

Solution : Police and security groups work together to patrol/enforce security in farm arias

It works wonders in Bela Bela