the other doesn't have a planning stage

Marius your having mic feedback

I think @Marius is rocking out

@Marius plz use push to talk

push to talk should be default

muting him then

yeah happens by chance, you try commit a crime like rob the oke, and by chance they decide to defend themselves and gets killed, that is unplanned second degree murder... the idea of going to someones home, invade it and torture the family and then murder them, takes a long time to plan how to do that, that is driven by a passion of emotion, measured by the degree of hatred... see plenty of hatred spewed by politicians and social media to support this kind of activity

@Meerkat_RSA what I meant by marketing vs enforcement is that we can concentrate on policing planned crimes, but sometimes crimes of passion are useful for the feelies. Personally I'm not really interested in the marketing. I want us to attack the problem, not so focussed on the media

@Nidalap Rorrim @rob I alays jam here, every single night. But mute me if you don't like it, I won't mind

I don't farm and I don't live in the township, if all the farmers get killed or leave then I don't eat. eating is literally the most important thing in life after breathing and water

@Marius hey man, no offence intended, I like it

@rob I wasn't offended my man, thanks 😂 👌🏻

@Marius I dont mind, its just your broadcasting over the other ppl talking

@Nidalap Rorrim strange, I usually mix it so that it is much quieter than the voices

I think if you put every form/way of murder in SA into categories listing it by what one would be the easiest to solve. Farm murders would probably be height on the list of easiest to solve. Soz i'm 1 1/2 bottle of wine in so I'll just type and not speak with voice chat ;p

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@Rendier there are agitprop people out there looking to infiltrate our groups, create extreme far right views, screengrab and try to sink the platforms

the Genocide narrative does more harm than good. It gives fuel to the ppl that say its a conspiracy

the SJW will hijack your platform, and the Alt right will try hijack most others. the SJW and Alt Right are the result of communist divide and conquer tactics, both groups get rounded up and shot when the revolution is completed

Whats funny is the argument Caracal is using is exactly way Black Lives Matter use

protecting the head that matters more @RaRi

lol

hey, vegetables can propagate the species

nice one guys

57 murders a day is a lot to handle. Compartmentalize them and then tackle each group one by one.

Its almost impossible to work out the per capita statistics since the statistics on the number of farmers in SA is very unclear

well, there are decent sources @Bruh dead bodies are easy to count, as are titles at the deeds office

I dont mean number killed i mean the pure number of farmers around

LOL! @Meerkat_RSA

so we can work out per property not per person, we could get averages of people per property based on census data

Its similar to trying to work out how vulnerable township victims are as the number of township dwellers is not clear

well townships and farms are different, most farmers have a corresponding title deed, most township dwellers don't

Not just journalism is Dying, Naspers is in big kak

At the end the media is a company they don't care if they divide the people they make money.

South Africas murder rate is not that uncommon compared to other countries

GG @Bruh, you just advanced to level 1!

Solution : Police and security groups work together to patrol/enforce security in farm arias

It works wonders in Bela Bela