@Bruh ? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Map_of_world_by_intentional_homicide_rate_%282015_only%29.svg/1600px-Map_of_world_by_intentional_homicide_rate_%282015_only%29.svg.png

Btw im not saying its not a problem im saying its not a unique roblem

problem*

@Rendier how the 35k number for farmers are derived at is very important like you stated. If a farmer living outside Calvinia on a farm with his wife and three children, plus his mother in law counts as only 1 towards that 35 000, and the farmer and his wife and one child is murdered, then either you have to increase the 35k to also include the full family (on average multiply by 3.5 for example), or you can only count the murder as 1 murder.

ANC can't run a Bath let alone a country or a capital punishment system

@Meerkat_RSA join another channel

lets talk

Death sentence cant be enforced with corrupt/incompetent legal/prosecution system

I agree these conversations are pointless when we got these clowns in power

you don't want a corrupt nub handling a death penalty

courts are a joke. Example : Jacob Zuma

@Stefan Yeah that was a valid point made, and one which I dont recal being brought up before. it does make a significant change to the figures per capita really, however it doesnt change any other part of the argument really, these are still first degree crimes of passion that is actively encouraged by politicians, social media and indirectly by mainstream media

Have any of yall seen the TRT interview with malema?

However, Ernsr made a good point that almost 80% of all murders are social fabric crimes, or put differently due to domestic violonce or people being killed by someone they know (either family/friend/someone who wronged them). On the other hand farm murders are almost exlusively committed by perps unknown or unrelated to the victim. If you take this into account, whatever per capita number you get to by increasing the 35k, must be compared to a normalised "non fabric murder rate" of closer to 10 or 15.

very important point stefan

we need to focus resources where they will make the most impact

"The superior man in the world does not set his mind either for anything or against anything; what is right, he will follow."

There is no way of denying that farm murders are disproportional and a big problem. Just because the people advocating against farm murders might tend to skew or over exaggerate figures, or put added emotion/drama into it does not make it less of a problem. This is where I think Renaldo is getting bogged down. Also if "the right" keeps harping about farm murders, it becomes a "us vs them" scenario (meaning Afrikaner vs the rest of SA, put in black if you like). Also not necessarily a good thing if you are supposed to feel sorry about everything else such as white priviledge etc.

@Deleted User the plan isn't to follow logic. the plan is to follow this playbook:

Although the bourgeoisie has been overthrown, it is still trying to use the old ideas, culture, customs, and habits of the exploiting classes to corrupt the masses, capture their minds, and stage a comeback. The proletariat must do just the opposite: It must meet head-on every challenge of the bourgeoisie [...] to change the outlook of society. Currently, our objective is to struggle against and crush those people in authority who are taking the capitalist road, to criticize and repudiate the reactionary bourgeois academic "authorities" and the ideology of the bourgeoisie and all other exploiting classes and to transform education, literature and art, and all other parts of the superstructure that do not correspond to the socialist economic base, so as to facilitate the consolidation and development of the socialist system.

they should name the munitions factory that exploded after winnie

Iemand gaan daar moet gesiggie was....

Hi. My name is Stefan and this one time, when I was bored, I checked out René's FB.

@rob agreed.

@Deleted User that the girl is 70% smile?

rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHC1230OpOg @Nidalap Rorrim ignore it and the memes will go away??

/dowload gou Instagram...

Is sy baie "aktief" op IG?

lol

Sup all

yo @Darius we're in chat

Nog nooit die behoefte gesien vir Instagram nie

If anyone is an admin to the voice chat, I think I have been permanently muted because the last time my mic was on it must have caused a noise. Would aprreciate if you can unmute me for whenever I want to join

@Apollo ^

Sy is pragtig. Die laaste Renaldo live chat waar sy in die comments was was bietjir n downer vir my though

Regarding voice chat: I used my mobile phone as is. Do youbrecommend using earphones and a mic instead?

you don't need headphones if you use push to tlk

Ah Ok. I was on always on. So my mic probably pics up the other people talking

hahah

GG @rob, you just advanced to level 5!

*cracks knuckles*

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@AndeB

@AndeB

Lol, I'm sure whatever the business plan is, you guys must be saving him from biggest mistake of his life... Or at least that's the impression the memes give lol

Mag ek vra wat is die besigheidsplan?

Kan ek n presentation kry?

GG @Stefan, you just advanced to level 4!

Of het die memes dit reeds gedoen?

https://youtu.be/dwzmlBzubw8 - so ande officialy lost this one

I am definitely perma muted in chat. Can someone please unmute me? I wont say anything I promise. Just want to know I can say something if I want.

if you were muted you would not be able to post in chat

or are you talking about voice chat

Voice chat yes