It's far better to acknowledge that you're a monster kept in check than to pretend you're entirely altruistically good.

most mathmatitians are autistic so there has to be a positive 😛

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i had to learn to keep my pathological altruism in check. and I still too often fail with that

is really bad when you come across pathological liars of any kind

i think what we really call disorders are social more than mental but they are observible neulogicly. something is a disorder though when you have functionality problems

I'm sure everyone's had violent thoughts. The fact that you have the facilities to not act on them is what brings you to the side of good.

I've often theorized that the rise of ADHD is an adaption to the information age.

It's less a disorder, and more just a different order.

i think disorder is applicable for things that are a detriment to your life; some you can integrate well, but eh... also for lack of a better word

different environments favour different traits and abilities. @RyeNorth This is an interesting topic where epigenetics might play an interesting role. But I'm not versed enough in that area

I mean, ADHD is labeled as a learning disability

it's a focus problem

but at the same time, I was tested early on with a rather high IQ.

i also have adhd

so yeah, can impede your learning

The biggest problem I ever had in school

and yeah i also was higher than average iq

And what caused me to lose focus

was that the lessons were always longer than they needed to be.

to my knowledge adhd and high IQ are not mutually exclusive. may rather be to the contrary

People with ADHD are generally able to jump from topic to topic and absorb.

i never had a problem with focusing in school because hyper was more a problem for me, i never even wanted to focus let alone try and fail to

i basicly refused to learn anything i didint choose to want to learn

Well, among other things, the school system is pretty archaic.

regarding learning with adhd, i've noticed a few different routes that can work. Either increase the sensory input around you to overload the constant processing (ie letting complex music run), or just increase the speed of a recording you're watching (ie a lecture) to force hyperfocus on that. include headphones too

i agree, the school system is archaic in some ways and regressive in others

know a few people for whom either works. the former is annoying when in semi-public places though <.<

And the system as it is basically requires ADD kids to be put on speed.

listening to the school my parents grew up in, i see flaws in it, but less flaws than now even

school system, here in germany too, is completely incompatible with high IQ kids, autistic kids, ad(h)d kids etc.

they do not check which learning types work best for which kinds of kids

i think the american school system is incompatible with any children reguardless of their neuological growth

What we need for the school system.

that might actually be a better idea than you may think

(It's the sorting hat from Harry Potter) 😛

"Sort your students"

Except the houses didn't really determine curriculum

The problem state side is that most states teach to a specific standardized test

the social envirnement of the public education system is fucking anarchy, like at best your punished for violence but beyond that little to no direction is given to the social structure of childrens lifes is given

Bruh. It's worse than that.

I've gotten punished for GETTING PUNCHED before.

Oh yeah... that

thats just something thats been on my mind lately

Don't remind me...

My elementary school had a secret pedophile teacher. Woman in her late 50s. Thinking back about it, the school knew about it

I got pushed down a flight of stairs one time. The principal actually told me that it was my fault, put me in ISS for the rest of the day, and sent the Athletics kid that did it back to class.

whur!?

even if... it was your fault... tripping and such... why would that justify putting you in detention or whatever that ISS means (we don't have that in germany)

I don't really want to say football players.... but...

the corruption and incompatence is neerly incermountible. were way behind what we are capible of in education

iss is in schould suspension

Oh, no, that's not even it

The kid wound up saying that I said something or another

And figured, being the problematic ADHD kid who refuses to take medicine, that I probably said it and deserved it.

It's worse than 'Oh, he tripped'.

in school suspension is where your suspended from class but not the building. meaning they arnt teaching you anything while at the same time still collecting tax money off of you

Basically, that.

School Choice when.

brb, I need to get food or something.

American school system is a magical bundle of failure.

Gotta love it.

School Tax Vouchers when!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_choice

Would forcing them to compete for your tax dollar help or something. Or would you just go for complete privatisation or something.

That's what School Choice is.

i think if you want to see improvement in your country reguardless of where you are, solving education issues and solving public information issues are your best bets. atleast right now for most countrys. in a few years we will be seeing economic problems that will be more important

and take it somewhere else.

Here we are advancing into a future where functional robots and AI are a thing.

And the schools are still almost completely geared towards factory workers.

automated factorys bother me because i think the working class should still exist

And that's its own conundrum. In theory, you *could* adjust society to handle something like that where the lowest grade of workers are just there to maintain machines or something.

Would require a massive overhaul of, if nothing else, the educational system though.

it wont work. its not society calling the shots, its corporations, and technology will replace those who watch robots do their work with robots that watch robots do their work far quicker than then the process of creation robots that actually replace the working class, which they are also going to try to do

"in school suspension is where your suspended from class but not the building. meaning they arnt teaching you anything" this is just counterproductive, retarded and broken. This spirals kids down into failures. this should be bloody obvious to anyone.

i agree neja, its one of many incompatencys. though this case its actually an archaic one rather than one of the regressive problems ive been seeing pop up

yeah, the old problems remain and new ones are added

the worst kind of update/change

this is why i really dislike the far left btw. just yesterday i had a discussion with one who was just all about "accept the change, because change is good for the sake of change" and could make no sound argument for the detail in question. only the moral nonsense that you're bad if you don't want it, and that change is categorically good

the lights are on but no ones home with people like that

Change is good except when it isn't.

change is good if you change the bad, if you change the good, you risk removing good and all you keep is bad

adding random things just for the sake of adding, is usually called feature creep, and just dissolves your thing, product, system, whatever, into a big shoggoth of nothing

i've heard a similar statement

Society is like a living being, if you treat it healthily, work on improving, train and educate, it will grow and be strong,
Introduce bad things, and you'll end up with diahrrea."

Also helps if growth is natural and not too forced.

oh yes

these idiot politicians should at least play sim city

or dwarf fortress

Hah.

haha

force on them dwarf fortress

They play dorf fortress and end up banning pointed objects because that's the only thing they learn.

can you imagine like Kim Jong-Un playing Dwarf fortress

"immigrants are arriving" - whaaaat? I barely have quarters, no food production going, a goblin attack (ok, that reduces population) AND ELEPHANTS, also why just so many nobles again? they are way too demanding and i will just have more madness rampaging the bloody bloodstained dungeons D:

to be fair, Socialism is greatly represented in Dwarf Fortress,

It might work for a while, but sooner or later, you make 1 tiny mistake, and everyone dies horribly and your society collapses

from a chain reaction

socialists and the muslim immigrants act like jobless nobles in dwarf fortress

they add nothing to the society, but need the biggest rooms and gaudiest places

well, Western Socialists tend to be the jobless nobles 😛

college people who did gender studies, and now have a bachelors degree they cant get a job with

living on their parents wealth

(I'm a bit pissed because we had a human trafficking ring rooted out last year. twice. in a kebap shop in my prior to merkel very very boring hometown)

color me shocked

Germany?

yeah

my hometown has completely changed within that first year

they put most of the immigrants into the prettied up mainstreet

center of town

barely anybody goes there anymore, and children take longer routes to their schools

they're dealing hard drugs there in open daylight

`Well maybe you just have to teach your children not to be racist, yanno?`

meanwhile, police is busy catching people for tweeting

before that you could barely get weed in that town

Has germany gone off the deep end in that regard? I thought it was mostly just the UK.

fun fact: the Left party (the actual name is "The Left") opened a mosque next to it's party bureau in town. On weekend all the 8yo girls go there all already in headscarves

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so progressive... so feminist... so free...

Also; lol

green rye

RANK YOSELF

Germany is completely off the deep end

the former east german states have completely flipped to conservative parties though (CDU and AfD)

Would you say it's accurate to say that the entirety of what's going on across the EU is Merkel's fault?

isnt CDU merkels party?

big voting blocks for them aren't even the germans, but the former migrants from eastern europe, russia, poland, etc

I've had people argue against me in that regard.

About how places like.. Denmark I think it was are relatively unaffected because they just refused too many immigrants.

CDU is the christian conservative party. but with a crypto-socialist like merkel... they can't act conservative in any way

Not just Merkel's fault, but she pulled one of the very very big levers

Martin Schulz and JC Juncker are just as much at fault, but their actions were further in the background

I wouldn't say the troubles in EU are Merkels fault entirely, She was a big driving force,

The biggest reason is ALL those spineless "globalist" leaders in western Europe bending over for virtue signalling

and i say globalist in quote marks, because i dont think these people think of wanting new world order, they just want money and to Look virtueous, and are too disconnected to realise what shit they're doing

What people forget is that one of the last quotes of Helmut Kohl, I think when Merkel got her Calergi-award, was "She's destroying my Europe..." ("Die macht mir mein Europa kaputt")

the leaders of other EU countries usually bend to germany, because germany is the big driving force of the EU

Denmark does have it's problems with the immigrants they still got and can't get out yet. Their stop made the big news, you don't hear much about the other stuff. Denmark's a small country, mind you.

i just hope the continuing pressure, flipping rightwing countries, and extra strain from brexit start breaking this farce appart

sadly the only logical way for now. we can't get the pendulum to the center easily right now. the left ideologies are too strong and in way too high places of government and society. this stuff needs to break apart before we can even hope to slowly swing in slowly into the middle. just hope it doesn't get too ugly when it swings to the right

in a way, i have to choose between pest and cholera anyway

the far left abuses my medical issues for its own gain and distorts them for it, and invites really dangerous people into the country en masse that want my life just as much as the far far right wingers

what are far far right wingers? 😛

the logical conclusion, if you are forced to vote with a gun to your head might be actually the right wing, at least "not the left"; in order to stop even more murderous people around

the actual neonazis

aah the Nationalist Socialists

they're as opposed to the whole gay and transsexual idea as the muslims are

some of them are

and with the degenerate if not clownish obnoxious displays the left portrays us as, i can hardly be mad at them tbh <.<

ive actually met some who dont really care that much one way or another about gender issues

tbh, in germany we make quite a point of insisting to call them *neo*nazis; because they really don't have a lot in common with the actual nazis of the past

most of them are thugs

a friend of mine calls himself a social nationalist

well actual nazis were nationalist socialists, Hitlers part WAS the german labor party after all

Neo-nazi's are just angry people that hate X for Y reason

it's a bit more complicated than that...

but...

it's kinda late here, and I still wanted to watch yet another auschwitz documentary. because that's totally what you should do when depressed 😛

not that the nazis didint have thugs in their ranks though

Was super nice talking with you all

cya

but imo, many sides draw links and paralels,

And only use the 1D spectrum to shove any bad attribute on the opposite side

cya Neja

@RyeNorth If @Timcast Ever needs yet another tranny opinion on some weird issues, I'm available. Also if some German is required to be translated. Can't hunt for interesting articles myself atm though

not to mention people draw social stances together with economic stances

@Neja "'Lower the testosterone level relative to estrogen levels to make men more feminine.' You don't even know what the estrogen levels of human females are, or you wouldn't phrase it that dumb."

i wasn't talking about females, i was talking about men. Specifically the levels of each hormone in the body. I'm assuming you know that both males and females have certain amounts of each in their bodies. I also assume that sex change doctors know more than me about what can make a male more feminine but perhaps my understanding of how much estrogen or what it does is a bit flawed. I figured they used it to bring out feminine features and characteristics in the body, then used suppressors or removed the testes to lower the level of testosterone to hinder or diminish more masculine features, such as chest hair or facial hair.

"when we speak of "chemical castration" we refer of the destruction of the T-factories, the testes. In both cases you don't have functioning testes anymore. That is the castration; not the resulting hormonal levels as you framed it. Hence reversed causality on your part"

Sorry, perhaps misspoke. First off, i'm not talking about "chemical castration". Just castration as it refers to testosterone, which is a hormone, which are a chemical substance in our body. Not chemical in the terms of "things not to ingest because they are bad for you" (*cough* tide pod idiots *cough*). So chemical in the bio/chemistry sense, not warning label sense, if that makes ...sense (i need better wording). Now, this relates to my understanding of the original comment "So there's a chemical means of political control?". This is based off a picture posted somewhere above that more masculine men where on the right, and more feminine men where on the left. So, i read "chemical means" as by removing the testes to decrease testosterone and/or increasing the estrogen levels using supplements. Which is chemical so far in as hormones are chemicals (this is still based of if my understanding of bio is correct. i seem to recall them being refereed to as chemical messengers/chemical substances at some point but maybe i'm wrong in that technicality). Also, i may have found my comment that added to the confusion: "damages the production of testosterone, which is chemical" that should read "which is **a** chemical", my bad.

At any rate, i was only trying to help clear up what to me seemed like a misunderstanding of what was meant by the term "chemical means".

wall of text kills Dr.Wol for 1 life

Also, sorry I pissed you off because i didn't mean too. And if it wasn't me that pissed you off but something else going in life, i'm sorry and hope that goes away and stops annoying you

Lowering the level of Testosterone doesn't make men more femine,
It just kills their masculine-?ness?
Making them less prone to alpha-male behaviour

Think of it like a color scheme, If you have 255 Red, 10 Yellowand 0 Blue, your color will jsut be bright red, if you lower the red to say 25, you suddenly get an Orange-ish color

Thats why men with lower testosterone are just less typical alpha behaviour

and Estrogen is to the developing body of a wamen what Testosterone is for a man
Estrogen produces bobs and stuffs, Testosterone chesthair, denser muscles and beard

https://youtu.be/qFt_75YKxTM

I'm getting mixed messages in that one

so Trump gave those people back their voice that was taken by the SJW, and put criminals in jail

And thats somehow a lesson to not take away someones 1st amendment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DLvTu6HXqY

Oh lord, guys. I need help. I've gone down a Yakko Rabit Hole.

What about the good countires? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3T1lHBBuLA

I've already seen this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIsB8-XWO4Y

Pretty funny how he just froze on this one, like 'You're kidding, right?'

South Africa during and before apartheid was the only first world country in africa. Now it's a third world country. http://hdr.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/ZAF

Rhodesia wasn't to bad either but wasn't that industrialized and was still better than Zimbabwe.

subjectivity of better or worse

All most every metic you can think of.

Look at the human development index South Africa is ranked 119th and Zimbabwe is ranked 154th.

Socialism is one hell of a drug

Sure that's why New England is so shit.

i dont actually agree with the standard that "technological and infastructural development is the determinant of good living"

people are animals and i judge them as such

Do you want to live in any Africa country? or do you want to live in a western (white) country?

im european

not african

you wouldent get a jack russle to hunt lions would you? and you wouldent get a masstiff to hunt rabbits

It's a simple question. Would you rather live in a western (white) country or an African country?

id argue there are probably less africans with depression per capita than europeans or americians

But Europeans and Americans can build and maintain good countries.

yes there is some work to do but once we remove the degenerate influences things will get alot better.

you use this word good and i dont think it means what you think it means

We can build and maintain first world countries while blacks can't, it's that simple.

well zimbawe did try but then we fucked them up by the time they reached a feudal state

You put arms and econmic embargoes on Rhodesia and Rhodesia was in the middle of a civil war yet it was still better than Zimbabwe.

Look what the Rhodesians achieved in 90 years.

The Zimbabweans can't even farm beyond the subsistence level.

~~~I would not want to live in any other nation, white or otherwise, than the one I'm presently in.~~~

~~~Everything else, white or otherwise, is going to shit.~~~

Disregard that. I might not be opposed to Japan.

Yes and why do you think Japan is successful?

Really?

You're asking me this, again.

Yes why do you think Japan is successful?

It's not immigration full-stop

It's unchecked mass immigration.

Liberia doesn't have any immigration either.

Sure it does.

It has output.

People of different races can be compatible with and unite around a master culture.

I suggest you read Bowling Alone by Robert D. Putnam. Basically more diverse a society is the less successful it will be.

And yet the United States is one of the biggest world superpowers.

is the

it's one of

but it's also top dog

Only a sith deals in absolutes

Oh really? Don't think China and Russia are really "successful", unless you only count those leading counties

uh

This gives the bassics. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/presentation/c223/9e95b47d2285a6872412a1815c15ffb25e35.pdf

Texas has an economy larger than Russia.

They aren't that great to live in.

Armed forces and GDP nigga

Top

Dog.

Woof.

Sith.

Wow forma communist countries have shit economies.

Socialist counties in general aren't that great.

If you remove Texas from the US GDP

and give it it's own GDP

Don't use socialist when you mean communst it's confusing.

US would still be number one

and Texas would be #11

Beating out South Korea.

Yes and Texas has a larger GDP than Mexico. Why do you think that is the case?

@Ghostler apparently California has a large economy. Still a shitty place to live. Unless you are a criminal.

Teas has a larger GDP than Switzerland.

@Deleted User because they are not counting drug cartels

So what the fuck is your angle? your argument doesn't seem to have any leverage.

Cool Texas has a larger population and more space than Switzerland.

OK? We were talking superpower and I'm going with US as KING OF THE WORLD

Ah, thought your comment was related to my Russia one

My argument is that populations with higher average IQ's create better countires.

Also, China is near or has surpassed the US on GDP