Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-05-17 19:24:27 UTC  

I mean, JBP kinda touches on that pretty frequently, too.

2018-05-17 19:24:46 UTC  

yeah, essentially you could say that everything deviating from the statistical average, the normal, is a disorder, even a positive thing. There are positive sides to autism, if you're lucky and really just a high functioning one with few detriments. It happens in many math and physics and IT departments of universities. and yeah, OCD can have positive effects too, if channeled properly 😉

2018-05-17 19:25:16 UTC  

It's far better to acknowledge that you're a monster kept in check than to pretend you're entirely altruistically good.

2018-05-17 19:25:22 UTC  

most mathmatitians are autistic so there has to be a positive 😛

2018-05-17 19:25:25 UTC  

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2018-05-17 19:25:51 UTC  

i had to learn to keep my pathological altruism in check. and I still too often fail with that

2018-05-17 19:26:06 UTC  

is really bad when you come across pathological liars of any kind

2018-05-17 19:26:09 UTC  

i think what we really call disorders are social more than mental but they are observible neulogicly. something is a disorder though when you have functionality problems

2018-05-17 19:26:09 UTC  

I'm sure everyone's had violent thoughts. The fact that you have the facilities to not act on them is what brings you to the side of good.

2018-05-17 19:27:05 UTC  

I've often theorized that the rise of ADHD is an adaption to the information age.

2018-05-17 19:27:21 UTC  

It's less a disorder, and more just a different order.

2018-05-17 19:27:27 UTC  

i think disorder is applicable for things that are a detriment to your life; some you can integrate well, but eh... also for lack of a better word

2018-05-17 19:28:21 UTC  

different environments favour different traits and abilities. @RyeNorth This is an interesting topic where epigenetics might play an interesting role. But I'm not versed enough in that area

2018-05-17 19:29:07 UTC  

I mean, ADHD is labeled as a learning disability

2018-05-17 19:29:19 UTC  

it's a focus problem

2018-05-17 19:29:23 UTC  

but at the same time, I was tested early on with a rather high IQ.

2018-05-17 19:29:23 UTC  

i also have adhd

2018-05-17 19:29:27 UTC  

so yeah, can impede your learning

2018-05-17 19:29:38 UTC  

The biggest problem I ever had in school

2018-05-17 19:29:40 UTC  

and yeah i also was higher than average iq

2018-05-17 19:29:46 UTC  

And what caused me to lose focus

2018-05-17 19:29:57 UTC  

was that the lessons were always longer than they needed to be.

2018-05-17 19:30:09 UTC  

to my knowledge adhd and high IQ are not mutually exclusive. may rather be to the contrary

2018-05-17 19:30:22 UTC  

People with ADHD are generally able to jump from topic to topic and absorb.

2018-05-17 19:30:27 UTC  

i never had a problem with focusing in school because hyper was more a problem for me, i never even wanted to focus let alone try and fail to

2018-05-17 19:30:49 UTC  

i basicly refused to learn anything i didint choose to want to learn

2018-05-17 19:31:34 UTC  

Well, among other things, the school system is pretty archaic.

2018-05-17 19:31:47 UTC  

regarding learning with adhd, i've noticed a few different routes that can work. Either increase the sensory input around you to overload the constant processing (ie letting complex music run), or just increase the speed of a recording you're watching (ie a lecture) to force hyperfocus on that. include headphones too

2018-05-17 19:32:07 UTC  

i agree, the school system is archaic in some ways and regressive in others

2018-05-17 19:32:08 UTC  

know a few people for whom either works. the former is annoying when in semi-public places though <.<

2018-05-17 19:32:09 UTC  

And the system as it is basically requires ADD kids to be put on speed.

2018-05-17 19:32:56 UTC  

listening to the school my parents grew up in, i see flaws in it, but less flaws than now even

2018-05-17 19:33:02 UTC  

school system, here in germany too, is completely incompatible with high IQ kids, autistic kids, ad(h)d kids etc.

2018-05-17 19:33:23 UTC  

they do not check which learning types work best for which kinds of kids

2018-05-17 19:33:55 UTC  

i think the american school system is incompatible with any children reguardless of their neuological growth

2018-05-17 19:34:06 UTC  

What we need for the school system.

2018-05-17 19:34:07 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/446757327589081088/latest.png

2018-05-17 19:34:27 UTC  

that might actually be a better idea than you may think

2018-05-17 19:34:30 UTC  

(It's the sorting hat from Harry Potter) 😛

2018-05-17 19:34:45 UTC  

"Sort your students"

2018-05-17 19:34:55 UTC  

Except the houses didn't really determine curriculum