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2018-03-31 16:38:45 UTC

It wasn't WWIII

2018-03-31 16:39:20 UTC

*But it's more fun to call it that.*

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individuals in large numbers are the masses

2018-03-31 19:26:03 UTC

and yes Jaden, only this time the goy jew survived

2018-03-31 19:27:52 UTC

I thought a collective of individuals was called a ball pit? <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

2018-03-31 19:40:42 UTC

😬 πŸ”«

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2018-03-31 19:44:06 UTC

<---- Rekt.

2018-03-31 20:46:45 UTC

thats fake there is no rain in front of the face πŸ˜„

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2018-04-01 04:02:36 UTC

Thank you friend.

2018-04-01 05:28:26 UTC

"Santa's lucky, 'cause he only eats cookies." πŸ˜†

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2018-04-01 20:26:12 UTC

rocked by rape

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2018-04-02 14:29:21 UTC

i'd call that smart, not cowardly,

what kind of idiot would intentionally add risk to their combat life?

2018-04-02 14:35:43 UTC

they forgot the chinese created gunpowder....

2018-04-02 14:47:32 UTC

they forgot to add that those "whites" who invaded were smart enough to A) bring a gun to a knife fight and B) band together and stop fighting their neighbors 24/7

2018-04-02 14:47:55 UTC

if you are going to insult someone, make sure you don't unintentionally insult your self with implied meaning

2018-04-02 14:48:52 UTC

and C) bribe tribes to capture other tribesmen

2018-04-02 14:50:22 UTC

Brains vs brawn eh?

2018-04-02 14:50:33 UTC

thats always a thing people forget

2018-04-02 14:51:16 UTC

"how dare you buy slaves"

like yeah, thats bad enough.... but who sold them? Thats worse. OH that's right **their often black neighbors**

2018-04-02 14:52:09 UTC

you mean, pretty much all black neighbours.

2018-04-02 14:52:25 UTC

Eh what can I say, people figured out how to monetize victimhood.

2018-04-02 14:52:32 UTC

Thats genius really.

2018-04-02 14:53:53 UTC

Cant find the battle, but thats how guns vs spears went

2018-04-02 14:54:04 UTC

"These horrible people, no honor, no bravery. This is why we are better"
....really? you are better? thats why you are living in huts, starving, and killing your next door neighbors? BEFORE the white man even got there? Maybe instead of bitching about being behind and its unfair, how about you get clever and beat them at their own system. You know, like feudal japan did after we borderline forced them out of seclusion.

2018-04-02 14:54:18 UTC

Eh man, if you got nothing going for you.

2018-04-02 14:54:22 UTC

or just bitch about asians being OP i guess

2018-04-02 14:54:54 UTC

"we support all minorities.... except Asians, they make us look bad"

2018-04-02 14:55:03 UTC

"chad nigger vs virgin slope"

2018-04-02 14:55:32 UTC

@GingaBomber this is a better example for Guns vs Melee :P

2018-04-02 14:55:45 UTC

But... Musket lines

2018-04-02 14:56:06 UTC

And sexy british uniforms

2018-04-02 14:58:07 UTC

bit of a one-sided fight that 1h clip is πŸ˜›

2018-04-02 14:58:33 UTC

Eh, so was the war

2018-04-02 14:59:28 UTC

Well, zulus lost almost 7k vs 2k europeans.

2018-04-02 15:00:00 UTC

Then again, might have a point, europeans would retreat earlier.

2018-04-02 15:03:40 UTC

Still thoguh balance wise, sure, you have cannons, and musketlines, but youd encounter waves of a 100 at once. They will drop like flies, but once they get close, your firing line is screwed.

2018-04-02 15:05:14 UTC

true, though in most cases they wouldn't all just stand undefended they'd have ways to keep the people on distance
walls, dem spike barriers, pits etc

2018-04-02 15:06:13 UTC

Im talking the game tho.

2018-04-02 15:06:23 UTC

IRL, well, they had volley fire formation.

2018-04-02 15:06:39 UTC

Had some fortified positions that funneled the zulus.

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2018-04-02 15:07:32 UTC

I like the volley fire formation. Pike and shot period to shot and bayonet period has to be my fourth favourite moment in war

2018-04-02 15:07:43 UTC

When it comes to war history

2018-04-02 15:08:07 UTC

Worst thing to hear in this mod? Your commander yelling "affix bayonets"

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2018-04-02 15:08:58 UTC

Well, cause spears are actually better than bayonets. In close range. Rifles wernt long enough to be used as conventional spears that time.

2018-04-02 15:09:04 UTC

I mean whys that?

2018-04-02 15:10:36 UTC

for the non-spear people i'd imagine?

2018-04-02 15:11:07 UTC

Well, spears were better than swords in general

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2018-04-02 15:11:54 UTC

but i always figured bayonets were for a last moment stab when you're still shooting and don't have time to draw another weapon

2018-04-02 15:12:28 UTC

well, with fire rates that slow, youd only get one chance in close range.

2018-04-02 15:13:08 UTC

So you switch to a melee range. A bayonet just happened to be the most cost effective way to get everyone cheap bladed close range weapons.

2018-04-02 15:13:23 UTC

Unlike calvary that would get cutlasses.

2018-04-02 15:13:40 UTC

Like what? Club them to death with the stock?

2018-04-02 15:13:47 UTC

well if you're on your own yes, but wouldn't you get a bit more time to reload when your squad fires too?

2018-04-02 15:14:13 UTC

Well, unless you have some form of volley fire.

2018-04-02 15:14:30 UTC

Thats an issue.

2018-04-02 15:14:50 UTC

Also, if you are firing alone, you are already doing something terribly wrong.

2018-04-02 15:15:19 UTC

maybe you're Chuck Colonorrist?

2018-04-02 15:15:20 UTC

I mean, those muskets create so much smoke that the field is a mist after a half dozen volleys.

2018-04-02 15:15:37 UTC

And you only have enough time to fire a few times.

2018-04-02 15:16:06 UTC

Not sure how common melee ended up, but it was understood that you either shot from afar with a unit, or were close up in their faces.

2018-04-02 15:16:52 UTC

makes sense yeah

2018-04-02 15:16:58 UTC

With bayonets.

2018-04-02 15:17:34 UTC

Like said, just happens to be the nuance of the period. Ranged weapons with innate armor piercing simply made metal armor obsolete.

2018-04-02 15:18:20 UTC

One shot + a canister of cotton and gunpowder is easier to transport than arrows/crossbows despite both being more accurate than shot.

2018-04-02 15:18:57 UTC

Bayonets + pistols for close range. Since shots take so goddamn long to reload and fire.

2018-04-02 15:23:42 UTC

maybe africa should demand a rematch

2018-04-02 15:24:36 UTC

Well, they already started in south afric

2018-04-02 15:25:15 UTC

Id joke more, but I really would rather actually hope someone does something about it.

2018-04-02 15:26:02 UTC

Australia should put forth its plan to move those white people from South Africa to Australia,

Then we can just watch south africa go the way of Zimbabwe

2018-04-02 15:30:06 UTC

Fuck whoever is calling Aussies racist for bringing over farmers.

2018-04-02 15:30:27 UTC

Like let my country take the rohingyas. The farmers will actually contribute to society.

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2018-04-02 18:28:15 UTC

Black British Woman should touch base with all the "cowardly & weak" gangbangers in Chicago

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2018-04-02 19:11:11 UTC

This needs to be seen.

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2018-04-02 20:48:57 UTC

cuz it shows the mainstream media being just one mouthpiece for whoever is paying them

2018-04-02 20:49:05 UTC

'n shizzle

2018-04-02 20:56:44 UTC

well... its a general statement that is intended to fit for all stations... and it is completely neutral on politics...

2018-04-02 20:59:45 UTC

all those stations are owned by the same company too, so they were just all given that script

2018-04-02 21:00:24 UTC

im just elaborating on why he linked it, i'm not like "pff, liek u didn't know that? pff l2 facts k?"

2018-04-02 21:04:18 UTC

yeah... i know the context... i just don't see any relevance... its basic self promotion, i don't expect a company to write hundreds of scripts that is tailored to each station... now if the message was inherently political i might see it differently... but it really is not.

2018-04-02 21:05:43 UTC

well it does hint at the fact that the amount of real reporters out there is considerably less, due to these all pretty much broadcasting most likely from the same source

2018-04-02 21:07:30 UTC

well... its local news... do you expect a newspaper to be completely different in every area for which it has local news or just that the local news part is different?

2018-04-02 21:09:52 UTC

i was under the impression that local news would still be running news on their own'

2018-04-02 21:10:50 UTC

news sure... that is not news but self promotion

2018-04-02 21:11:08 UTC

You don't think there's something wrong with all of these news stations being handed scripts from on high?

2018-04-02 21:11:21 UTC

for self promotion? nope.

2018-04-02 21:11:24 UTC

That maybe something can possibly go awry with such a system?

2018-04-02 21:11:39 UTC

It's not promotion. What are they promoting? What are they selling?

2018-04-02 21:12:20 UTC

the name "self promotion" should give you a hint on what they are promoting πŸ˜‰

2018-04-02 21:13:01 UTC

what exactly are they promoting there though?

All i'm getting from them in those clips is the "listen to us, not fake news" lipservice

2018-04-02 21:13:02 UTC

That doesn't answer the general question of if whether or not you don't see anything wrong with this.

2018-04-02 21:13:09 UTC

its the same thing as cnn saying that they sell apples πŸ˜‰

2018-04-02 21:13:43 UTC

Deflection with an attempt of humor is not an answer.

2018-04-02 21:13:52 UTC

In fact it's pretty indicative that you don't have one.

2018-04-02 21:13:55 UTC

it IS the same thing

2018-04-02 21:14:33 UTC

the ONLY difference is that they used the local staff instead of making a general spot

2018-04-02 21:14:51 UTC

i'd say they're using local staff TO make a general spot

2018-04-02 21:14:57 UTC

(which in this case is just the easier route to go)

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2018-04-02 21:16:06 UTC

again... if they would be pushing some sort of political narrative i would object to it... but that is really just self promotion...

2018-04-02 21:16:20 UTC

but they're just preaching that CNN propaganda bull of "Theres people pushing agendas with their news, which is dangerous to our values, so listen to us instead"

they're preaching an agenda, about people pushing an agenda

2018-04-02 21:16:30 UTC

....you don't think the news media pushes an agenda?

2018-04-02 21:16:38 UTC

sounds political to me tbh

2018-04-02 21:16:49 UTC

Of course they do.

2018-04-02 21:17:32 UTC

i don't think that promo is any different that what the rest of the news media does

2018-04-02 21:17:33 UTC

Because everyone has an agenda: you, me, Jayred, CNN, Tim, Sargon, the alt right, islamist terrorists, etc.

2018-04-02 21:17:52 UTC

i stopped using an agenda in the 2nd grade!

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2018-04-02 21:18:21 UTC

i don't have an agenda, which is probably why i keep forgeting to buy milk πŸ˜„

2018-04-02 21:18:38 UTC

thats my joke! i'm going to make an agenda to ruin you!

2018-04-02 21:18:55 UTC

How is it self promotion, though? It seems they're all being told to deliver the same message about what to think to the general public, to me.

2018-04-02 21:19:13 UTC

that is waht they're doing

2018-04-02 21:19:26 UTC

i guess in a way it IS self promotion, because they're saying "use us for oyur news instead of "the others""

2018-04-02 21:19:51 UTC

it is a promotional text that is general enough to work for all stations with little to no changes

2018-04-02 21:20:49 UTC

they are saying "we are unbiased news and don't report fake news" - exactly what cnn is saying.

2018-04-02 21:21:04 UTC

This isn't some generalized ,"btw please subscribe" request or anything like that. This is a specific political message with a specific intent being passed down to all of these news agencies.

2018-04-02 21:22:11 UTC

And there is no disclosure about any of this either.

2018-04-02 21:22:32 UTC

They are respresenting the information as if they are the originators of it.

2018-04-02 21:22:36 UTC

what political message would that be?

2018-04-02 21:22:52 UTC

don't listen to other media, only us because they push an agenda, we don't

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2018-04-02 21:23:13 UTC

Which is ironically pushing an agenda.

2018-04-02 21:23:25 UTC

that is not an political message... that is essentially what every single news outlet says

2018-04-02 21:23:46 UTC

that is the exact message of the cnn apple spot

2018-04-02 21:24:38 UTC

the democracy bit is very ironic but other than that...

2018-04-02 21:25:46 UTC

So you don't see the potential abuse of power here? And let's be frank: a power which has been and will continue to be used?

2018-04-02 21:26:18 UTC

This doesn't creep you out in the slightest?

2018-04-02 21:26:20 UTC

unless you believe they are all unbiased, the political message is clear "only listen to us so you don't get other sides of an argument"

2018-04-02 21:26:48 UTC

again... not political, just promotion

2018-04-02 21:27:03 UTC

okay, what would you define as political?

2018-04-02 21:27:15 UTC

But news agencies have taken political stances before, and tried to send political messages before.

2018-04-02 21:27:44 UTC

This exact message and this exact video, maybe not, but it's still indictative of the structure that's in place.

2018-04-02 21:27:54 UTC

political would be "gun control is bad" for example

2018-04-02 21:28:02 UTC

not "we are trustworthy"

2018-04-02 21:28:33 UTC

I would say it is given the 'fake news is bad' message, especially when you take into account that by 'fake news' they typically mean alternative media.

2018-04-02 21:28:45 UTC

and yes the structure in place could be abused... but not really that much more than any nationwide channel

2018-04-02 21:28:45 UTC

so, if Hillary Clinton would say "Don't listen to other candidates, listen to me, i'm trustworthy",

that would constitute non-political to you?

2018-04-02 21:29:08 UTC

activist news is bad?

2018-04-02 21:29:10 UTC

politicians are inherently political

2018-04-02 21:29:26 UTC

so is news

2018-04-02 21:29:33 UTC

it shouldn't be

2018-04-02 21:29:34 UTC

any news story will affect your view on society

2018-04-02 21:29:40 UTC

but that's not politics

2018-04-02 21:29:47 UTC

news is somethign happened

2018-04-02 21:29:51 UTC

news inherently is not

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and who and where

2018-04-02 21:30:01 UTC

any and all news,

affects your view on society

2018-04-02 21:30:18 UTC

Since when does the MSM report on 'just the facts' without a political slant?

2018-04-02 21:30:25 UTC

even hearing that a litter of kittens is born,

it gives you positivity, makes you feel like the world is doing better

2018-04-02 21:30:44 UTC

which then can be turned on you if you're told others are not as fortunate and you start to feel bad

2018-04-02 21:31:42 UTC

doesn't have to be intentional, but it still does

2018-04-02 21:32:02 UTC

And that's assuming the best.

2018-04-02 21:33:36 UTC

And don't forget that even the lack of the presentation of a story can be a political stance in and of itself. Even picking and choosing which stories they present, even if they did it 'without a political slant', will itself push a particular political message or agenda.

2018-04-02 21:35:01 UTC

The Parkland shooting was all over the MSM for days, and is now leading into the gun control discussion again; however, another school shooting which took place only about a week later, one in which the shooter was taken out by a security officer with a gun before he could do any real damage, was barely even mentioned in anything other than that county's local news.

2018-04-02 21:35:41 UTC

And even afterward, they continue to push the Parkland story.

2018-04-02 21:35:46 UTC

I wonder why that is, exactly?

2018-04-02 21:36:52 UTC

And even within the Parkland shooting itself. How many MSM outlets were reporting about not only one, but *four* Sherif's deputies were standing outside of the school doing absolutely nothing while the shooter went on his rampage?

2018-04-02 21:37:11 UTC

You can use news to further an political agenda, that is not in question. But the news itself is first and foremost something that happened.

2018-04-02 21:37:36 UTC

In theory, that's how it is supposed to work.

2018-04-02 21:38:36 UTC

That is what i mean when i say that news in inherently not political while a politician is.

2018-04-02 21:38:53 UTC

the point of it all is,

Even though the message reported might not be intended to mean anything than promotion,

It tells you that A, these medias are all a mouthpiece for the same goal.
And if they all publish the same "narrative" the people will be inclined to believe the message because "look, they all say it"

and B, the content of their message is an attempt to get you to tune out other sources in favor of theirs, which can as they say themselves, be dangerous to a democracy, when people only get 1 account of things

2018-04-02 21:39:19 UTC

The news isn't supposed to be political, but right now it's just a mouthpiece for a particular political agenda.

2018-04-02 21:39:39 UTC

And we're not talking about the idea of news, but the practical reality as it exists right now.

2018-04-02 21:40:00 UTC

also news "SHOULD" be inherently not political,

Modern news is factiosn telling their take on an incident, rather than report the incident itself

2018-04-02 21:40:09 UTC

And back to the spot... yes i see the potential for abuse (mainly because the stations run under different banners) but the spot itself is not different to other spots.

2018-04-02 21:41:09 UTC

Too many journalists see their work as an opportunity to promote their own pet political notions, rather than a responsibility to inform the public and let their readers and viewers decide for themselves.

2018-04-02 21:41:43 UTC

I know of very few people i would call journalists.

2018-04-02 21:42:22 UTC

Writer/Activist/Idiot is a lot more common.

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That is funny.

2018-04-02 21:42:47 UTC

the shadow of the jew πŸ˜›

2018-04-02 21:43:09 UTC

also, you don't have to call them journalists falko, they themselves do it

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I can call my self the queen of holland, doesnβ€˜5 make it true πŸ˜‰

2018-04-02 21:44:56 UTC

They're presenting themselves as journalists, though, and calling what they do journalism.

2018-04-02 21:45:02 UTC

When in reality it's political activism.

2018-04-02 21:45:10 UTC

no but thats because thats an incredibly off claim,

If you said you were a journalist, some people would believe you

2018-04-02 21:45:29 UTC

i thought marx was french

2018-04-02 21:45:37 UTC

Marx was a german jew

2018-04-02 21:46:22 UTC

kind of funny, his work created two of the most hated political ideologies of the 20th century

2018-04-02 21:46:22 UTC

It was released on february 21st though

2018-04-02 21:47:05 UTC

anyhow i'm off, its nearing midnight

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The funny thing is that the idiots in the US still take it seriously.

2018-04-02 21:47:38 UTC

✌ stay black

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Nah, no black bloc for me tonight 😁

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Poke weedle everyday

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That was fast.

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πŸ‘‰ 😎 πŸ‘‰

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Stolen comments follow:
-surprise return of FPS Russia
-It's probably Andy, if you superchat him 5$ you get to pick who he shoots. Send him a 20 and he shoots himself

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Adam Racewarski: pounding through superchats as he pounds through Google execs

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Just ask Hasbro.

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