How the fuck do you vore as a skeleton

I asl

v o r e c o r e

REEEEEEEEEEEE

skelevore

Like theres no skin there.

shall I post more to help uncover this mystery?

Also, I have the stomach flu so Id rather not imagine the discomfort.

I think the weakness of civic nationalism is that it is weak to outside cultural influences, which is ironically supposed to be what it's strength is. I prefer the nationalist state to an ethnostate, don't get me wrong, but we do have to acknowledge the flaws in civic nationalism.

elaborate.

"weak to outside cultural influences" this 'weakness' could be defined two different ways depending on which side you're on.

Well, for instance, this issue Europe has with mass migration. The idea behind civic nationalism is that anyone coming into the country in question adopts it's values and traditions, or at least celebrates them, but what do you do with large groups of people coming into your country that won't 'play ball', so to speak? Civic nationalism is great, as long as everyone agrees to the conditions of it, but when large groups of people are coming into your country that don't agree to these conditions, I think eventually it will dissolve the state over time.

this is true

Agreed mostly

but mass immigration isn't a product of civic nationalism

And I admit, this is mostly an issue with mass uncontrolled migration in the first place, more than anything else.

I think I was just pointing out that this wouldn't happen in an ethnostate, although it does come with it's own problems, yeah.

weren't you a wolf before

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-21-2015/C2Sjnt.gif

wat

Geh, yes, indeed I was.

otherkin

Nid, I was simply bored.

It's one point on which me and an ethnonat agree

But furthermore it's a counterpoint to your statement, Civic Nationalism would not allow for mass immigration

One issue with an ethnostate, especially when it comes to smaller countries, are concerns of genetic diversity.

In much the same way an ethnonat would defend teh core of their race

Not inherently, I suppose, but it is what is being allowed right now by many western countries.

a civic nationalist would defend the core of their nation

Nationalism as a whole has been given a dirty name over the past couple of decades, which I think is one of the core problems, yeah.

Globalism is the opponent of nationalism, and the dominant force.

I think globalism, like communism, is an eventuality, but we're just not there yet or even anywhere close to it.

lel

I came in the middle of the conversation, but, are you serious?

Yes.

from my cold dead hands

Communism simply does not work for humans.

It would have to be forced

I think a globalist structure COULD exist with nations remaining independent.

There will come a point where our quality of life will be so great that we won't even need money, but again, this is *way* into the future.

But any true globalism would be too authoritarian, or it would not function.

Another point Ethnonats get is that, western society can't go into a non-western nation and fix that nation.

That nation has to change from within.

^ ^ ^

It's the whole "giving a man a fish vs teaching a man to fish" thing.

Western Society developed where it did, I would challenge, not as a result of race, but as a result of trade.

>There will come a point where our quality of life will be so great that we won't even need money, but again, this is way into the future.
If there is no money, there will be no freedom

I'm inclined to agree.

if you are implying a world without freedom, it is possible

If we fall to a one world government

Are the two really so intrinsically linked?

I just don't see it lasting very long

there would be no competition.

Either that, or we'd fall to intense corporatism, and that's pretty scary, too.

(not that we don't already have that)

Nations should be able to compete.

Hell, I think the states in the US should be more in competition with one another

That's how the best ideas come forward.

all hail the free market

On a city level, on a state level, on a global level, that's where the way forward exists.

I know it's a bit of a utopian idea, but what do we do as the quality of life rises to the point where we don't even have to work in a lot of ways? Many jobs are falling into automation, and it's only going to get worse, to the point where even *now* we're whispering about UBI.

I totally agree with @RyeNorth on this

competition is essential. It's simple darwinism

I said in this chat before about some talk about California. Let them do whatever they want and let bad ideas fail

And the federal government should exist to protect the people, but not the individual state.

I think UBI is inevitable, but I don't think that means communism

If the state is going to fail, it needs to be able to.

The perfect human society is one in which natural selection continues to refine the human race

UBI might be the more realistic 'middleground' between communism and what we have now, I would agree. Don't get me wrong, I think the free market solves a lot of problems, and was only talking about where things could go into the far future.

and to Jaden's point, even if we automate, unless we achieve singularity, people will still have jobs.

And new jobs will come with new technologies, yeah.

Or perhaps one in which humans are most capable of adapting to their surroundings

In some socialist society how are people supposed to adapt if their existence is supported solely by the government?

I just want IQ cleansing

for a gay universe

just make everyone watch R&M

IQ problem = solved

Kisetsu ga Kawaru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eomblgvNEaw

to be honest, I never truly got that show, it looks stupid; along with Steven Universe and Adventure Time

adventure time is made of love

Adventure Time is actually kinda dark when you look at it.

and darkness

the lich

I miss the old days of cartoons, though.

First run Futurama. the original 'Cartoon Cartoons'...

me too...when they actually meant something...had a plot...no matter how asinine it was

Yeah.

even kids shows now a days are messed up

With some exceptions.

nothing but visual crack these days

well yeah, except for a few rare shows lol

~~I won't name names.~~

*echo on* The Jews *echo off*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LXwo3WGyXc

yes

ty

I wish Kronos had clipped it down more to where it's just that part. lol

Yuujin

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