Kind of like the gorilla channel thing. I could kind of see it, but it goes too far and into too much detail that it just becomes comical.

what the hell how can you see the gorilla channel 😂 😂 😂

The only thing I can see about that is every once in a while Donald Trump might flip through the channels and end up with a gorilla documentary

But I can see him saying the shithole thing

but I could also see myself saying the shithole thing

I have said the shithole thing and worse

Same

I just did

lets me fair, have you ever seen somalia?

some of the places in these nations are.....sick

just.....horrid bad

beyond shithole, a shithole implies that there is at least an attempt at sanatation.

And fertilizer

nah a shit hole is just a hole to dump waste into then cover over.

your basic redneck outhouse more or less.

A shithole is orginized, a shithole is useful, a shithole takes thought and planning

Reminds me of those humanitarian horror stories.

the majority of these places, are not.

they dont even QUALIFY to be a shithole.

Like one about teaching them to wash their hands.

And the Clintons are abducting children and shit out of Haiti anyways so they got that on top of it all

I wanna hear one Ginga

What did they do? Rub dirt on them to dry them

Hahaha thats retarded

The fact that vatican is running around telling people to not use rubbers and not correcting people that you cant cure aids by raping a virign is criminal

Or the un complaining bout us, but not the other 90% guilty of worse shit.

No dude its ok

Well complain bout the us and israel

Suadi arabi is the head of the human rights board

its all good.

they know about heads!

Its not the complaints direction. Its the people giving them.

Honestly, at this point Ive taken a rather numb view.

You get iran and somalia complaints

If the rest of the worlds nations teamed up they would lose.

and if anyone threatens israel, well the six days war is just now a score to beat

Iraq was conqured so fast we could barely keep going

So fuck em

At this point the only way those nations are even ALIVE is oil

oil is islamic nation life support.

Im sorry but its true.

without oil they become africa

Lol, why apologise for the truth. Well to me.

Idk at this point, tradition?

What are you? Canadian?

yeah

Joking aside

hell no.

I sometimes seriously wonder about the world.

See the world man. Meet people.

But yeah, I also worry bout the oil nations. What happens when they run out.

Dubai and the UAE are working on that

Trying to redevelop themselves as the ultimate tourist spot

Dubai is so odd.

Tax haven too

We have brunei here.

Real generous welfare.

Jordan is heavily westernizing

I,heard the opposite for jordan

Jordan also had king badass in charge for a while lol

He had an amazing pr campaign.

Jordan was bad for a while, yeah, but ever since the current King is in charge, they've been heavily working on modernizing

The guy's an avowed Star Trek fan, and has even cameo'd on Voyager, so.

Ah so hes still around the?

He gave a really good speech too

Well jordan is in,good hands for now.

Goodish.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/9/96/USS_Voyager_sciences_lieutenant_001.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080526225048&path-prefix=en

Of those in the region it is going alot better then say turkey.

Well still better than the other shitholes they call countries neighbouring it.

He's also trying to get rid of royal powers faster than the government is willing to take them from him

No, not kidding

The only issue with that is alot of these nations often just give up democracy for islamic rule

So he wants democracy then? Sounds a little funny actually. In a good way.

Well like iran I guess?

Iran is a prime example yeah

'Abdullah, a constitutional monarch, embarked on neoliberal economic policies when he assumed the throne, and his reforms led to an economic boom which continued until 2008. During the following years Jordan's economy experienced hardship as it dealt with the effects of the Great Recession and spillover from the Arab Spring, including a cut in its petroleum supply and the collapse of trade with neighboring countries. In 2011, large-scale protests demanding reform erupted in the Arab world. Many of the protests led to civil wars in other countries, but Abdullah responded quickly to domestic unrest by replacing the government and introducing reforms. Proportional representation was reintroduced to the Jordanian parliament in the 2016 general election, a move which he said would eventually lead to establishing parliamentary governments. Although some local opposition groups called his reforms inadequate, other observers praised them. They took place amid unprecedented regional instability: an influx of 1.4 million Syrian refugees into the natural resources-lacking country and the emergence of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

Abdullah is popular locally and internationally for maintaining Jordanian stability, and is known for promoting interfaith dialogue and a moderate understanding of Islam. The third-longest-serving Arab leader, he is regarded by the Royal Islamic Strategic Studies Center as the most influential Muslim in the world.[1] Abdullah is custodian of the Muslim and Christian sacred sites in Jerusalem, a position held by his dynasty since 1924.[2]'

A king trying to undermine himself for the sake of the nation.

Honestly, NATO should be heavily investing into Jordan rather than Saudi

Oil

Gobs and gobs of oil.

Yeah, true

But still.

Not saying you are wrong.

Jordan is, IMO, the stereotypical example of 'you never hear about the good stuff'

Same deal with Kuwait, when's the last time those guys were in the news?

No news Is goods neqs mentality

Makes sense

Still, money and financial stability is king. And when the us can gurantee its supply of oil, it wont meed SA anymore.

Just last year we finished a 100M dollar+ project to build control cabinets to Abu dhabi. For a giant oil rig.
This was in Norway..

Good thing?

For the company i worked for then yes.

Ah norway. A non shithole nation

I say hello to you.

Non,shitholes of the world unite

Netherlands reporting

Nothing worth to report here...

I believe it was the first of 4 or 5 new rigs that began construction in 2012. With the lowering oil prices, It might be a problematic project in the near future..

Hi Commissar.

LORD commissar.

My pronouns are "How dare I speak to you" And "I am humbled in your pressence"

The Shapers of Destruction sends their greetings...

Heresy.

Heretek

I must use my special pistol to blam you

I will send my many servo skulls to fly around and mildly annoy you.

I'm a blue avian creature

You're already mindraped.

Your mother is open source.

Going back to my shadowrun

Whenever I see the word "pudding" all I can think about is Bernie Sanders now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_enuY4vFvWc

https://www.tenor.co/Tdy1.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6pfWyCx6p8

So im watching a tv show while eating dinner a new one i havnt noticed before called bull and a hillarious question came up

Is a hotdog a sandwich lol

https://scontent.fluk1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26904202_957905271025089_5394307731572023753_n.jpg?oh=61ecaeba03c979ecc58bfb8a1721b225&oe=5AEF2F0F

crime is so bad in vegas, the strippers are now security cameras https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/238850320661348352/401522473444573184/47EDAD4700000578-5249271-image-a-1_1515497359489.jpg

Hah

videogames have become reality

On thing that scares me. What if in the future we create the perfect representation of a human.

Like AI instinguishabe from a human. And a body indistinguishable from a humans at first glance.

@GingaBomber don't watch ghost in the shell

you'd piss yourself

What would happen though, like what reason would people have to go after real people?

you wouldn't have one

Just program a robot with all the behaviours, and antthing you dont like, just code it out.

I don't think I'd ever get digitized, if it came to that

the problem with the whole thing is if you get your consciousness transferred to a robot body, it wouldn't technically be you

it'd be a close approximation of you, but not you in actuality

I think it'd be worthwhile to augment the body deus ex-style

but anything beyond that probably couldn't actually happen

But im talking creating new personalities rather than copying them.

hasn't that already happened?

in a rudimentary sense?

like what was that microsoft thing that 4chan turned into a nazi? Tay?

Exactly, as time goes on however it will move from text only inputs.

In a mechanical body, start reacting to not only text but also the senses humans rely on.

what about that AI that was granted citizenship in SA?

did you see that?

Thats a thing?

Nope

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/26/saudi-arabia-robot-citizen-sophia/

this story's a few months old, but it's pretty interesting

Oh god the uncanny valley there.

oh yeah, it's bad

it's like the animatronics at disney world, but worse

Still, this tech will be improving.

I don't understand why we, as a society, think this is okay

it can only lead to bad things

Thats why I said I find it scary.

Robots will get to the point that they are superior to humans in most ways. What happens when they become aware of it?

this is not the vore i wanted

I recognize sargon, who are the others?

uzalu is auth-right, vee is lib-left, and louis le vaux is lib-right

uzalu and vee are decent, but I'm not a huge fan of louis le vaux

veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

(this is 100% real btw, none of this is a joke)

I will have none of this anti-Sargon propaganda

I am a Liberalist™️

What are you going to do about it @BigBoppinBoslet?

Watch from both sides and laugh as this escalates needlessly tbh

True I just find it funny that Sargon is against collectivism but then creates a collective.

Shows that individuality can never beat collectivism.

And well, people should balance both. And stop discussing people, rather the ideas they hold.

I definitely prefer JBP's take on individualism

Down low?

You can stand for individual rights and organize to advocate for them. It doesn't immediately make you a collectivist if you're rallying for individual rights.

A collection of people with the same belifs is kinda a collective

How can a signal person no matter how smart, athletic or other wise talented beat a cohesive collective? No one follows this principal just look at the "liberalists".

You can't. The point isn't how they're organizing, but what they're organizing for.

Like nazis and communists are both collectives, but they vastly differ from each other in terms of principle.

I assumed capitalism was anti collective, because they work for themselves, and so happens that helping others through goods production would benefit the self.

I mean, they're not *that* different from each other... <:hmkGrin:284219474440355840>

In a collective you do shit cause it benefits the collcetive

Although I agree it still doesn't answer the question posed toward Sargon: "What happens when an individual uses their individual rights to join a collective?"

You can't stop them, because then you're stomping on their individual rights.

Then they give up their rights as an individual and replace them with those of a collectivist?

I mean its their right to do so.

I mean, I can see what Sargon is going for with this Liberalist thing he has going on, but he needs to know that a lot can go wrong with it if it gets out of control.

I think another issue is the whole Kraut thing and what happened to 'Justice Democrats' is not too far behind us, so it is still fresh in people's minds.

Even the reddit anarchists recognize they need managers even though most dont adnit it

And well.. I dont think I want sargon at the helm of this.

everyone that isn't anarchist is partially collectivist

Either he'll be at the head of it, and it may or may not go well, or he'll find it more stressful than he originally thought and then hand the reins to someone else.

Arguably everyonr is part something and that changes often

Unlike gender..

i think the issue with collectivism on the left stems from the lack of seperation between ideas and action

Well, that's what family's are... collectives. Same thing with friends, and clubs, and coworkers, and gaming with your guild on MMOs...

Like how many would like the idea behind the new label and what bakes it different from libertarian

you can propose potentially bad solutions but not act upon them

which is obvious to any conservative

These Ideas have and never will be implamented because they will never work. They only appeal a small percentage of the population.

which ideas

indvidual rights above group rights.

More like not everyone will know how to handle individual freedom.

How many of us would rather be guided sheep. Stuck but content with doing one thing

No ambition or will to improve oneself.

if we all had 100% freedom we would be overwhelmed by biological motiviation

I’m truly failing to see what is so hard to understand about a group of people making government their bitch rather than collectively being subservient to government

whether it be violence, drug use, stealing

Collectivism appeals to the people who are aware of their personal weaknesses and want the collective to compensate for them.

Hmm guess its a small govt vs big govt

Individualism is an ideology for people who want no responsibles and have no ambition in life.

I wish that made sense

I think we saw responsibility differently.

this is <#398973785426100234> btw

get out of my memespace you facists

But I could argue that an individual would do better with ambition if not chained by collective doctrine.

Well, it is beneficial for us to work together and compensate for each other's weaknesses, as it does make the whole better. The split comes when some want to *force* people to cover for other people's weaknesses.

Well its just punishment vs incentivising.

You are incentivised to compensate for anothers weakness in capitalism.

Yes, but you still have the choice, whereas you don't if you're being forced.

Collective doctrine gives people something to work for were individualism only brings nihilism for most people.

Yes I personally need the government to force me to not be suicidal this is true

this is a bit meta

Heres the thing then. Not everyone can handle being free.

Like showing the entire deck in HS as opposed to showing parts of it.

Overwhealmed by choice as they say.

Yeah, it can form a sense of purpose and cohesion. I mean, I don't want to start any kind of debate since I'm just using it as an example, but I am Christian, and that's made me far more content with my life and given me a purpose more than anything else beforehand.

Goverment has nothing to do with it people need a group identity for a sense of purpose.

group identity?

inb4 the hate. lol

Well you aint wrong there, but at the same time it results in mob mentality

@JadenFrostwolf why do you expect hate 🤔

What if it simply makes the collective resistant to change in general.

Well, I'm used to the "lol your a Christian?!" kind of responses. lol

lmfao i'm over that