there are NO laws that whites have that minorities and POC dont have too ...... totally different than the current police/citizen paradigm

It's not, though.

yeah, i already said it, they are part of the ruling class .... just takes some common sense to realize

~~Who, white people?~~

it is diffent bcuz there are regulation and "color of law" in place that privilegs police to extra rights they just magically give themselves out of thin air

Also, it's not trolling

I'm taking your argument at face value and showing you the generalizations.

If it looked like trolling, I'd suggest that it's because there was an uncomfortable truth to it.

What are those privilege?

Police don't have extra rights.

They have duties.

Duties put upon them by the municipalities they serve.

If you're advocating for private security firms

i already went over this ... police in CA for example are allowed to open carry... us plebians are not

It will end no different than the police.

they have a duty to enforce that only THEY are allowed to open carry and make sure that other citizens than themselves are not?

just one example

Gross misrepresentation

another example is consequences of assault.... police are allowed to threaten assualt on non-violent ppl who pose no threat just for the sake of compliance

gross misrepresentation? how so? am i wrong?

You can be correct on facts, and incorrect in how you portray the situation at the same time.

seems like youre very triggered .... its okay.... relax man... lol

Projecting, much?

Not sure whether this analogy works, but the consequences of assault reminds me of the privilege that tenured professors have on their work/speeches

you touch a police in a unwanted or welcoming way, they can body slam you, arrest you, and throw you in a cage.... but they can do the same to you for NO GOOD reason against ppl non-violent who pose no danger or threat merely for the sake of forced compliance

So an argument in favor of chaos then.

Let me address that.

Duty to enforce open carry

Yes. That is the law that was voted upon in California

It's the law that the people of California choose to live under. The police will enforce it.

you are actually misunderstanding me though.... i dont have a problem with them going after actual violent criminals

But open carrying despite the fact that agreed-upon law says no?

a *minority* of ppl who voted to impose their will over a majority of ppl

majority of ppl dont even vote

Not voting is a choice

So you're speaking out against a representative government, too.

Then whose fault is it for not participating in voting?

```if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice!``` - Rush

but the whole idea is CONSENT of the governed

Apathy is consent technically

thats a weak argument because some ppl just magically give themselves the right to impose their will over others

I mean....

doesnt make it legitimate

Oh, what's that concept that goes around in SJW circles?

Where you have to ask consent every 15 seconds or some shit

Basically that, but in government form?

LOL thats retarded, dude... come on... .talk about misrepresentation

Consent is implied until stated otherwise

California checks the consent of the people every year in november.

We do?

@missdanger BINGO okay okayl... lets see here ...

okay everyone .... listen up....

"i dont consent"

now what

Well, you can feel free to move!

What you not consenting to?

Laws.

Apparently...

naw, still wrong. you hate what you dont understand

laws arent the same as colors of law

have you ever even heard of color of law?

evidently not

Oh, I have. 😆

Wait a minute, it seems like the topic is getting off tracked

you are not bound to color of law jurisdictions arbitrarily and absolutely

Well under our somewhat weird ass legal system, you are still under the jurisdiction of US domestic laws even if you dont consent. My house my rule kinda stuff

municipal codes and statutes are not the same as laws

'Traffic signs aren't laws!'

Oh god! You're a SovCit!

yeah AS IF theres no incentive to obey traffic signs

AS IF i would just run stop lights wrecklessly if not for laws ... come on man give me a break

I hope we get a new member who is a paralegalis to clear things up

Question, question! Do you 'travel' in your car?

i obey them cuz i dont wanna get in a fucking car wreck

lol you are a very triggered individual

do i travel in my car?

um , doestn everyone commuting do so?

🤣

do you not travel in your car?

I drive my car.

what do you do? teleport?

I ride a moose, like all canadians

oh, and youre not traveling while youre driving? I AM SO CONFUSED

Maybe you're not full on SovCit, but you're one bad traffic citation away from it.

Society is monitored under incentives, both self-interests and coercive. We obey guidelines because of consequences that will directly or indirectly impaired our quality of life.

naw, im probably a better driver than you are. i have had MANY jobs as a driver. im a fuggin pro at driving

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oWdCG6I1f1c/hqdefault.jpg

Why is am I being detain there twice?

you sure like to paint ppl up into the "other" too .... weak strawman arguments

That chart is cheating

That chart is Bingo.

Did you win?

"i do not consent" ??? LOL WTF man you are discrediting yourself!

I came a lot closer than than you'd expect.

AS IF police do not already ASK for your permission to search your car if they dont have probable cause

🤣

Oh, sure, they do.

There's a difference between asking permission and an order

you are not required to obey arbitrary orders if youre not beign detained. if youre not being detained, you are by nature free to go

this is some real common sense shit dude

AM I BEING DETAINED

lol

I can't tell if either of you are trolling or not

keep regressign to trollign cuz weak/no arguments

(btw I did NOT make this game)

Even if you are detained you are not required to obey arbitrary orders

hes just trolling now

What happened to the police debate

this is what it has regressed into

callign me a sovereign citizen and shit like that

What was the last point being made?

Oh I don't remember. This just became funny as hell to me.

well you crack yourself up, mate

If anyone CAN get us back on track...

As a third party, this debate is difficult to keep track of.

Same

It keeps diverging

it stopped being a debate a while ago

regressing into trolling

Police don't have extra rights.
They have duties.
Duties put upon them by the municipalities they serve.
If you're advocating for private security firms

Poptarts - Today at 2:36 PM
i already went over this ... police in CA for example are allowed to open carry... us plebians are not

I'd covered that point already.

I'll restate

The Police are armed in service to their jurisdictions. Enforcement of Open Carry laws are the laws that were agreed upon.

Arguing that you are above the jurisdiction in which you live is essentially arguing your own independence from the system.

agreed upon by whom? not everyone agreed to this ideas that is supposed to rely on supposed agreement

Put 200 people in a room

Have them order one type of pizza.

you live in Texas, dont you?

to feed everyone in the room.

you should know that an armed society is a polite society

Oh, absolutely!

California's a fucking joke!

Does that mean I would go and buy an illegal weapon?

Absolutely not.

Regardless on whether everyone agrees or not, don't the voters decide that?

Poptarts is arguing the rights of the dissenting party.

look, i back the police more than you think even if you WANT to paint me in the light that you do bcuz of whatever triggering issues you have with other anti-police extremists, which i also disagree with as well

Feel free to tell me if that was a mischaracterization

I think that last statement was rather fair.

I mean, you didn't hesitate to call them a terrorist organization...

Nor did you walk it back, when I gave you the opportunity to.

it was an edgy comment, you got triggered... maybe they should just fire all low IQ thuggards so we wont have to worry about the terrorism anymore

Wewlad

Can I see your data?

But the problem with that is, that's pretty much a lot of them

On the IQ of the 'thuggards' in the police force?

Then again higher IQ doesn't make better police

they even have workplace alternative IQ tests to make sure most police arent "too smart"

Higher IQ doesn't make a better human.

Lower IQ might, as they tend to follow orders

low IQ means higher propensity to violence as a first resort

Is it?

and to blindly follow orders too

So a rebellious security force is a good security force?

nobody said that higher IQ means "better humans" LOL man WHO are you arguing with??? talk about SJW tactics

You implied that Higher IQ makes for better police.

I argued that Higher IQ doesn't even make for better humans.

Pretty uncharitable read, man.

you are too agitated for me to try and reason with you, frankly dude

has taken up too much of my time already

I SERIOUSLY think you're projecting here.

ya ... im SOO agitated..... you can tell ... just totally wore it all over my sleeves

*see above exchange*

pretty much.

Go crack a cold one and come back

You're the one INSISTING that I'm triggered, angry, and agitated

meanwhile I'm playing Bingo.

dude, sounds like youve been literally hyerventilating for the past entire exchange

I mean...

this has devolved into ad hominems

take a break guys, it's embarrassing

Admittedly, yeah. It kind of has.

Let's talk about cats

Or global warming

cats fucking suck

dogs are infinitely superior

FUCK YU AKTRICAST

lol everbutty now huggles

u wot m8

I have a cat and 3 dogs

all my opinions are valid

Why is it that the people who go on big speeches about Global Warming take private jets to get to them?

its okay.... mmmmmmmmm ::calm soothing voice:: puuuurrrrrrrrrrrr 😺

How important is psychopath for our society? And why do they even exist?

Does Al Gore keep his thermostat at 78 degrees?

(In the summer)

Psychopaths are needed to get crazy shit done

Like running multinationals companies

Like making the tough decisions?

Yes

Most CEO have psychopathic tendencies

Work hard to be better than everyone else

Also. Aren't we at a point where global warming is irreversible?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_in_the_workplace#Careers_with_highest_proportion_of_psychopaths

#6 🤔

suprised dentist isn't even on top 10

Dentist are sadist

The list doesn't surprise me

Maybe the journo want to see the world burn

lol, George Bush's Crawford Ranch is actually a green home, while Al Gore's house spends 2,400 a month on energy bills.

20 times the national average in natural gas alone...

o_o

How big is his house for him to use that much

Well the one being described there is his home in Nashville.

well, take into consideration

Bush saves a lot, cuz he has an Outhouse instead of a toilet 😉

@RyeNorth to see hypocritical, just look at silicon valley. "we need to save the environment.... now please excuse me while i waste the most energy out of everyone, requiring more fossil fuels to be burned, then go buy 10 times more things than i needed, and keep getting the latest and greatest even if my old stuff still works. I like my green carbon footprint.... that is 30 times bigger than your average dirty industry"

how about hollywood stars with 100m bank accounts asking normal people to donate to a good cause

I'll take JJ Watt over that shit any day of the week.

He may not be from around here, but the man's a damned Texan in more than team name.

There are more white supremacists (and general racists) on the left, prove me wrong. (usually back handed comments, like with Kelly Osbourne and her house cleaners comments)

Whites need to defeat the hordes to survive

The IQ limit on pigs is mostly because the more intelligent are apparently likely to hop according to some departments

it's a cute focus but it's not something super encompassing as far as I can tell.

Nice little factoid; not much else.

I think the west should re-colonise the world in a new generation of conquest

change my mind!

In current era of decentralised resistance style warfare you could only achieve this by carriing out proper genicide.

There is a reason why US cant stamp the resisters in iraq and Afghanistan.

Its two completely different style of warfare clashing against each other

what was the west famous for after colonising africa? 😉

ship the locals to the cotton fields! 😄

Serious question, how is the debate on immigration still a thing

I get the people that are already here and pathway to freedom, etc, not a fan but, just can't really do anything else

but how is Trump's comment: “Well, I have a solution: Tell people not to come to our country illegally. That's the solution: Don't come to our country illegally. Come like other people do—come legally. I'm saying this very simply: We have laws, we have borders. Don't come to our country illegally.”

contenscious?

the issue is a matter of (education * location ^ 2),

The easiest people to immigrate to a nation like America are either: The Rich, or The Educated
This would create a very general area of income, namely, the western world, where people in general are rich and educated.

In the other parts of the world, Those who are educated get decent jobs and get a decent living, as such they have no need to go anywhere, and the average person is POOR by comaprison to say America.

America doesn't need 1000's of non-skilled poor workers, cuz it has too much already compared to the job market

So this leads to an obvious place of where immigrants flow from Easily vs where they dont.
And you can then reflect this off of race too, since the westernworld is primarily white. and the non-western rich nations are places like Asia (japan etc)
The obvious "accepted" people would be white or oriental. The rejected people would be people from middle america/southern america/africa/middle east.

Because there the average person is poor and uneducated.

So whilst on a fair basis, it is the fix.

It will clearly be less favorable with latinos, arabs and black people cuz they can immigrate less

Hence its not a matter of following procedure, its a matter of "This causes racial imbalance, hence ITS RACIST"

I'm quite alright with legal immigration

but you can only culturally integrate so many people at once

I also don't understand how anyone can think borders are racist

I'm going to make the racist assumption that many immigrants are probably poor as they are leaving poor countries, thus putting strain on the social programs

which would be ok if we're talking legal immigration, but when you open the flood gates, these social programs are probably getting overloaded

i just explained that,

With borders, YOU decide who comes in, and obviously you want someone taht contributes more than they cost, instead of someone that costs more than they contribute.

So you want "THE BEST", and the best comes from other developped nations, which are primarily white or asian 😉

that's not even what I want either 😃

no but thats why its an "issue"

I'm quite alright with people coming from the poor countries, legally

immigrants are going to be awesome citizens

and patriotic and all of that

I don't care if they're poor or not

Immigration for the sake of diversity is stupid. Immigration should be used to take people who will make the country better.

(in most cases)

you can be poor and make the country better

so that's not even an argument, or should be

but yeah merit based is good too

yes, but having a rich person (to pay taxes) or an educated person (to work difficult high-prosperity jobs) is a "Safer bet" than a "maybe he'll do well"

true

Of course you could be poor and make the country better. That's the great thing about merit. It ignores social status and race.

but that's basically calling for an ethnostate 😃 (substitute wealth for race)

i mean, would you rather have a licensed pilot fly your airplane? or a mexican who is nice and calls you his hombre? 😛

and has a plumbers license

just to reference that talk show woman 😄