but also some normal liberals

entertaining sometimes, irritating at others

the only channal im in that has sjws isint a channal where talking politics is encouraged

Second time i was accused of something i wasnt was in that chat

yep

we resolved it ultimately but its stuck

the irritation of it

ive gotten muted before for riding the line

hwt

i dont talk to them anymore largely

they dont encourage it there but they have a channel for it if we reaaaaaly want to talk about it

we mostly use it for news

debates have largely slowed down since the thing with me tbh

some exceptions do occur though

the only other room im in where theres something kinda like sjws is this room owned by an alt anarcho communist. which is to say a traditional marxist

lol i can imagine

trouble i got in there was pointing out you cant be a skeptic if your only reply to facts about how race is real is to repeat over and over "anything to do with race is either skin color or fringe medical science"

Most times ive just debated with like the same guy for whatever reason about third party viability in the US

it comes up occasionally lol

oh yeah hes also one of those origenal skeptic types that followed in the footsteps of like thunderf00t n shit

only other time is with the not Vee Romanian I know

wait so what did you say?

the Romanian and I mostly just talk about the Skeptics occasionally, and how shity Romania is

i basicly pointed out all the actual differences between geographic genetic population groups then compounded that argument with pooling actual genetic study onto it

and i backed up my reason for it actually being important as medical reasons because there are serious medical reasons why race is a consern

So like biological/genetic differences must be taken into account to determine medical treatments best for an individual?

In addition to the things you'd normally think about, such as symptoms, severity, etc., yes

yes

Somewhat unrelated, but no matter what race you are, hope to never get hepatitis C

so like how blacks are more likely to get sickle cell than others?

I used to have to update the application forms for the "Newer Direct-Acting Antivirals" against Hepatitis C at my last job every year

8 page PDF

damn

doin good work doh

Yeah, except every state has their own variation on the standard form

oh thats kinda weird

yes like that

Well, some states *cough Illinois cough cough* don't care as much about some of the minor details as some other states, e.g. Vermont

though sickle cell is something your born with so its usually not something doctors need to ask you, but paramedics might want to be conserned with that as sickle cell will impact their job keeping you alive in an emergency

yea

i can believe that people have different medical inclinations based on race i just dont put any value in the whole IQ thing, mostly cause i dont view IQ as a quality level of ones intelligence even with test improvements.

i veiw iq as a quality level of ones intelligence, weve also found genes that we beleive to be related to different developments of inteligence in humans, weve also found different populations genes are different. i think genetics has an effect on your potental iq but dont think its the only factor. even so i dont think iq is the only important human trait

I believe as far as IQ is concerned, nurture is much more influential than nature

/\

Ill take Wisdom over Intelligence any day

It even means i can be a Wizard lel

I dunno, lots of good spells for wizards. Int is ususally not my dump stat

lol

Of course, the last few characters I've made have been completely random, i.e. I roll the die to determine everything, and then create a personality around the rolls

but seriously i think Wisdom being the overall collection of learned material has more value

i typically play Fighters or Rangers tbh

I really want to do like a Battle Mage thing doh

but the systems arent really set up for it

My friends and I are running a Tomb of Annihilation campaign every other weekend, and the first session none of us really wanted to do the kinds of characters we typically played

It's just become an unofficial thing for us now when our characters die

ah

people who focus on inteligence also tend to focus on inteligence being as we think, to on average coorispond to a lack of agression and likewise argue agression is a negitive trait. i dont personally agree with that

So for now I'm playing a Chaotic Neutral Half-Orc Paladin with a Pirate background

Im planning a Fallout tabletop with some friends just need to confirm schedules.

Got a DM too

If it's a Fallout tabletop, wouldn't it be a Vault Master?

I always thought the interpretation of intelligence was ones base capacity to learn, of which could be expanded on via nurture

Roll20

link me that though

we havent fully decided but we need to do it online

My friends and I use Roll20 and Discord for the actual voice chat

The voice chat in Roll20 is still a bit buggy

ah

good to know

good thing i made a post-apoc server already lol

mmm

Roll20 also has their "Quantum" dice roller, but most of us prefer to use our physical dice

although atm im limiting it to just personal friends

i may open it up if we do the podcast though

yea

i have physical

as does the DM

but idk about the others so

I bought a "Bag of Holding" a few years ago, so I've got something like 24 complete sets of dice

i use roll20 but once my professional subscription runs out im switching to fantasy grounds

i just have one set

its nice to only need to pay once

My friends and I just don't bother to pay

we're fine with just the free features

yea we are doing homebrew so we should be good

in fact we already have established lore and characters lol

probably should talk ttrps in <#464233883303673868>

ye

https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2018/07/06/21103384/why-does-the-city-keep-letting-patriot-prayer-to-hold-rallies-it-doesnt-have-a-choice

Yes, it's Patriots causing the violence

You know, the side without weapons

the firework grenade was a peace offering, it's part of antifa's culture

I'm surprised the media wasn't aware of that particular gesture's origins in Antifa culture

flash bangs are not peaceful

you dont like chuck it into a crowd just to celebrate

But are you a part of Antifa? How can you know that isn't their version of celebration?

All cultures are equal and antifa's culture of throwing explosives into crowds is as valid as any other. Stop shaming them !

i dont protect a terroist organization

if they need to be protected, it would be behind bars

it would be better for them than it would for us

after seeing that tweet where they open carried at a rally, i dont think they should be around for much longer

https://www.theroot.com/a-black-woman-in-handcuffs-for-climbing-the-statue-of-l-1827417539

They are right in a way. Black people breaking the law, getting arrested for it, then other black people bitching about it for being an injustice.

around here a black guy who was technically unarmed got shot by police and people went nuts about it, the thing is he had a fake gun he was using to rob people at gunpoint and he pointed it ***at the police*** when they showed up

like, there's a limit to what you can try to claim is injustice

Welcome to America, where you can sue because your coffee is hot

> Welcome to America, nanny police state

ftfy

The hot coffee incident was totally a justified case.

That women was horribly burned to the point her legs fused together, and all she asked of McDonalds was for her medical bills to be paid.

And they were purposefully heating their coffee to absurdly unsafe levels on purpose so that people wouldn't be able to drink it quickly and ask for refills before they left.

You absolutely can sue for utterly stupid shit, but that doesn't mean it's going to go in your favor. The slaphappy lawsuit-state of America is greatly overblown.

Now slapp suits are worth complaining about.

the real dumb ones are the lawsuits behind store employees not being allowed to stop shoplifters

because if the shoplifter injures themselves running away from an employee, they can sue the store and potentially win

ESPECIALLY if the employee also gets in trouble for shrinkage

potentially, also there's just the opportunity cost and actual cost of going to court in the first place

Oh, that's what you're talking about

I thought you were talking about dismissals due to people actually defending the stores they work at

That's mostly an issue with property rights. If you get injured, the people who's land your on can be held liable, even if you're trespassing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-aobZstsbA @Tohob

🤠 Having Castle Doctrine in TX is nice

it even applies to when you're in your car

YES! ANOTHER TEXAN!

`may have been personal`

fucking what

I'll pretend one of you is from Amarillo and the other is from Corpus Christi

new murder plan; wait for your target to rob your place of business with a gun, then shoot him

works every time, most of the time

Why those cities in particular?

no idea, but Waco's creepy

And Midland's boring

use the ol' dollar bill on a fishing pole trick

Nine, you sound rather familiar with Texas, too. You holding out on me?

speaking of creepy I recently found out that Galveston TX is one of the worlds "most haunted" towns

Nope, not from Texas

meh. if you buy that, sure

I drove through both of those once in one day

Which two? We've named a lot of cities here...

That's nothing. I've driven through Madison, WI and Mobile in one day. 😛

(One of which I live within day-trip distance of)

Corpus Christi and Amarillo

I was driving from Colorado Springs to Frisco, TX

Sounds flat

It was boring

Texas needs more landscape features

no offense to any Texans here

You also bypassed all the fun driving in CO by starting in Colorado Springs

Eh, Colorado Springs to Denver isn't all that fun, imo

If you started in Alamosa, there'd at least be one interesting part

Oh, Alamosa

Yeah, haven't made it there yet

I mean, there was the Raton Pass

I recommend. It's a fun little place with a decent bit around

but yeah, that's about all the more fun that drive got

well i should mention this but a firearm is not part of your uniform

so it goes against dresscode

🦅 🔫 🇺🇸 I've got my dress code right here 🦅 🔫 🇺🇸
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Wtf they changed the gun emohi

Android's also changing/changed the dagger to a blue sparkly fantasy sword, and took the egg out of the salad to make it vegan friendly

same

its a squirtgun across all devices

except win 10

its still a revolver there

surprising that they haven't changed the bomb emoji yet

Yep, revolver

revolver on linux also

The mockery is that theres people who got triggered over that shit before.

yep. "if i dont have to see it then it doesnt exist"

I mean journos dont see much these days. Just copypaste and change what they heard

tru tho

Well good ones dont get paid much. Who wants to go to a warzone.

Tyt released a video today insinuating that the CEO of Twitter "Jack" is a white supremacist

Lesson: Don't try to hand feed sharks.

@Schedrevka fake news

It's true, see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwzCEK3eJFk

Actual video of Jack himself

Why was that funny to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhhyNm5rhHc

Oslo freedom forum by human rights fundation ... how you wrap regime change agenda into a freedom spin

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democracys-slow-fade-in-central-europe/2018/07/07/d155d1e4-8099-11e8-b0ef-fffcabeff946_story.html?utm_term=.79a8c8f53833 Idk if this really is Fake News but thoughts? guy in other discord im in posted this.

Media keeps pushing that Central Europe is becoming Authoritarian just because they dont like the EU

iirc Hungary's leaders are acting on constituents demands

idk about Poland

and Romania is just corrupt in general

Arnt they kinda authoritharian anyway?

Oh wait, central

Nevermind

I can see it happening in some countries for sure.

Poland, Hungary, and Romania are the main subjects in this

The NPR narrative was annoying because it tried to paint Trump's attacks on media as a parallel

Like Britain at times already feels like an anarcho-tyrany

b-but the EU *is* authoritarian.

oh i know

im getting in an argument the op about it now

legit having to explain the EUs structure

he thinks that its all elected positions

only Parliament is elected by voters

Council matches who ever the States chief of state is, which is kind of elected by proxy, and the Commission is elected by Parliament

fuck now he's pushing the whole if the EU didnt exist all the countries would be fucked thing

Well, say that its impossible to prove.

Since all the countries in the EU are now being fed, unlike the US is doing just fine. Well, finer than most EU nations.

convo shifted to EU reform lol

well, as someone from country sandwiched between hungary and poland, I don't think there is anything worriesome going on in either of those so far

at least nothing new I'm aware of

yea i mean i cant speak for those countires but Romania, which is where this guys from, is corrupt af, and we are trying to figure out what could be done about it now

oh corruption is a standard here, it's inevitable in post socialist countries

yea

its part of his argument for them staying in the EU

which i guess is fair

problem seems to be is that there is no push for reform

You could ask him if he would prefer for people in his immediate community to have a say in how things should work or if a few unelected people from across the world who can’t understand the situation of the people living in his area should decide things for them.

I don’t know where he lives but if it’s the EU one day they can import 200 migrants into his town/city where they’d have no say in the matter and be forced to deal with it even if the local population knows they won’t be able to handle the influx.

somewhat covered that already lol

I said that the commission should have a system like the US does with the Pres. where they do popular vote with electoral college

apparently thats come up but was opposed by those in power

He's in Romania

He tried to argue from emotion at first but stopped when I started talking about the EUs structure and how it had undemocratic elements

Then it went into how it could be restructured to give member voters more say

Then it went into Eastern Europe lol

Now I’m presenting the cultural concern

idk..EU and it's money brings about it's own corruption

def

the Euro was smart tbh

dont mean its good but it makes people reliant

The Euro was good for some countries and bad for others though

The differences in wages, automation and level of general production in advanced areas causes problems with a shared currency

It was a great deal for GBR and GER but Greece and to some extent Italy it can be seen as far less profitable

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/26/justice-secretary-dont-send-women-prison-unless-commit-violent/ im not sure if this is real

Does it surprise you after ruling like 'context is irrelevant' ?

I mean if they just be like 'we gonna home jail (or however you call it in english) crimes like shoplifting', who could protest that. But no, it's gotta be any non-violent crime and woman only.

home jail? you mean house arrest?

yea home arrest.. I just woke up my brain still not working 100%

theres some fake news going on

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/07/couple-killed-in-new-jersey-house-explosion.amp.html

not by fox news

but allegedly the couple the elder woman that died in that explosion was going to testify againts hillary clinton

thats what the fake news are ssayin

http://wethepeoplefree.com/whistleblowers/repost-by-permission-us-federal-witness-due-to-testify-against-hillary-clinton-for-drug-crimes-killed-in-massive-explosion/

'“I looked up to him,” 10-year-old Paul Vidal'

and he still looks up to him... because pieces of him are in the tree, on top of the house, just about everywhere

"A highly disturbing new Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today "

yes, this sounds reliable

"a friend of a friend of a friend said he over heard his friend say his other friend's brother's wife's cousin said..."

i am posting it here because if you google up the name of the poor old woman and just put clinton next to her name you will get a pletera of fake news

which is a sign

of something going on

usually these fake news sites get paid to spread fake news

to either bait idiots, discredit, or what ever

of what? that someone wants to use the death of a few old people so smear Clinton?

Yes

or make it seem like part of the Russian collusion bs

are you fucking tring to pick an argument with me?

wtf