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2018-11-21 15:56:58 UTC

I swear when it comes to people like Allsup, it's like watching a documentary about a particular conspiracy theory all the way to the end just for some guy like Allsup to whisper in your ear "oh and by the way, it's ***tHe JeWs***".

2018-11-21 15:58:41 UTC

Allsup >>>> Pakman

2018-11-21 15:59:21 UTC

They're both shit

2018-11-21 15:59:32 UTC

Problem solved

2018-11-21 16:00:57 UTC

Yeah, Matt and Rebecca rule them both

2018-11-21 16:02:14 UTC

Fact

2018-11-21 16:12:50 UTC

if many people make that connection about the jews, maybe there could be some truth on that.

2018-11-21 16:18:22 UTC

Trying to draw connections between your average jewish person and the few who are in powerful positions (and specifically the ones often associated with conspiracy theories) is exactly the same as feminists trying to draw a connection between the average man and all successful males. It's such a lazy conclusion, all you'd have to do is think for five seconds and realize that there are so few jews that supposedly control the world compared to the jewish population that it most likely has nothing to do with jewish heritage. At least the socialists simply identify "the rich" as the problem, which while still a lazy distinction still takes a few more brain cells than "it's the jews"

2018-11-21 16:19:21 UTC

Yes. When these kinds of theorists say "the jews", they're using a lazy shorthand for "The disproportionate minority of wealthy jews within positions of power that collectively work towards a generally homogenous goal".

2018-11-21 16:52:19 UTC

That the Jews are very Tribal and discriminate against other people doesn't help.
If you watch the "MAC Repair Guy" Louis Rossmann, he tells you about his jewish Landlord who would have made the Rent far cheaper if he was a Jew.

2018-11-21 16:53:41 UTC

Jones is probably more accurate when he refers to "the globalists", which encompasses those with similar goals and in similar situations.

2018-11-21 16:55:45 UTC

Ah Democrats. A party that is so against "gun violence", they want to cause a civil war and nuke their own citizens because the latter don't want their constitutional rights stolen from them.

2018-11-21 16:57:51 UTC

What little scraps of it remain.

2018-11-21 19:46:23 UTC

California should be allowed to secede.

2018-11-21 19:49:55 UTC

The problem with that is that a lot of the US would then be forced to make a choice between options. I do think a mutual parting of ways, a split of the US, is more likely than a civil war. Certainly more desirable. That said, it would be a terrible thing to happen and I think most of us are smart enough to recognize that were better together than separate.

2018-11-21 19:51:28 UTC

I'm an American, a patriot, and I think most living in population centers feel the same way.

2018-11-21 19:51:58 UTC

Don't make the mistake of listening just to the noisy ones.

2018-11-21 19:53:08 UTC

"would be a terrible thing to happen and I think most of us are smart enough to recognize that were better together than separate"

sounds like a UK Remainer

2018-11-21 20:08:09 UTC

The US is a much tighter union than the EU. It's been over 100 years since the last time one of our states was an independent nation. And only 15 of our states can claim to ever have been.

2018-11-21 20:09:48 UTC

That was meant to be a joke

2018-11-21 20:10:19 UTC

I was going to say โ€œState Enforced Honosexuality is the best way for social cohesionโ€ but then I thought that was probably too shitposty

2018-11-21 20:12:29 UTC

There are a lot of noisy people on both left and right talking about it so I choose the respond truthfully when it comes up.

2018-11-21 20:15:46 UTC

Yes, but what proof do you have that it would be horrible once you gloss over the transition period?

2018-11-21 20:17:50 UTC

Can you really argue gun friendly states are better off stuck in a union with gun unfriendly states? Where the Federal government is used as a battleground to force each-other's orthodoxy on the dissenters?

2018-11-21 20:26:11 UTC

Its a lack of understanding,

Caused by people locking themselves up in their room and only living in social bubbles

2018-11-21 20:26:28 UTC

as well as traveling systems preventing cross-over

2018-11-21 20:26:50 UTC

city people for example tend to have no idea how life is like in rural areas

And they use airplanes to fly from city to city, so they'll never encounter rural areas

2018-11-21 20:27:06 UTC

and cuz they're in a social bubble, they think they are the majority cuz the majority of the people they know agree with them

2018-11-21 20:28:32 UTC

As well as that the people in rural areas don't grasp that cuz of people living so close on each other so massively, theres more systems in place, people don't form tight knit communities, and they have general safety,

As well as more insanity due to more numbers of people

2018-11-21 20:30:08 UTC

the gun issue wasn't really an issue until the last 20-30 years, when it became a scapegoat for people not understanding, and poor management

2018-11-21 20:33:57 UTC

as well as shifting cultural climates,

Don't forget that in 1988, California was a red state, and it flipped,

Just like in 1976 Texas was a blue state that flipped

2018-11-21 20:39:45 UTC

Gun control dates back a long time. A lot of the cities in the "wild west" actually had complete gun bans in the city limits (considering this would include places like Kansas City and most other places of famous gunfights...you can see how well that worked).

The big modern push was the 1938 National Firearms Act which was a response to the St. Valentine's Day Massacre. The two other major pieces of legislation were responses to the assassination of JFK and the attempted assassination of Reagan. For the most part, it is true that guns are usually a scapegoat for other issues.

2018-11-21 20:40:57 UTC

And there is a strong urban rural divide. The cities really don't interact with the rural parts anymore and tend to demonize them. The arrogance and condescension from people like Colbert is, in my opinion, a major driver of polarization at the current moment.

2018-11-21 20:43:18 UTC

this is why they get called Elitists

2018-11-21 20:43:40 UTC

the demonize these Rural people because they are like alien

2018-11-21 20:43:58 UTC

they use these "bad" words they don't know are bad because no one out there uses anything else.

2018-11-21 20:44:08 UTC

you can use racist words while not intending to be racist

2018-11-21 20:44:33 UTC

When quoting Blazing Saddles, for example.

2018-11-21 20:44:56 UTC

You either quote it uncensored, or don't quote it at all.

2018-11-21 20:45:30 UTC

the elites make of this illusion that words are the important part not the intent or context to keep the lower class fighting among themselves. And those who pretend to be in the elite but are too dumb to really be in it play along like the puppets they are

2018-11-21 20:46:03 UTC

i think i find more genuinely nice people out in the sticks than i do in cities.

2018-11-21 20:57:15 UTC

Cat, weren't you the one arguing that a state does not have the right to secede from the union?

2018-11-21 21:17:15 UTC

I pointed to the precedent of the US Civil War, yes. That said, given an Act of Congress brings a state in, it could be argued that a similar Act could pave a departure.

2018-11-21 21:17:33 UTC

That has yet to be explored to my knowledge

2018-11-22 02:06:31 UTC

I felt like everything that I have believed in is challenged

2018-11-22 02:06:53 UTC

No one is wrong, and No one is right.

2018-11-22 02:07:37 UTC

What determines the rightful things is a common sense?

2018-11-22 02:20:50 UTC

Not quite groking you on that last sentence.

2018-11-22 03:40:45 UTC

Congratulations ihereou, you have just discovered the ideology of relativity

2018-11-22 03:41:00 UTC

the most destructive line of thinking in our modern age

2018-11-22 03:45:15 UTC

@ihereou of course no-one is totally right. We all get things to a varying degree of right or wrong, and it is the responsibility of each individual to learn what is right and what is wrong in order to avoid being deceived

2018-11-22 03:46:54 UTC

I'm right, y'all are wrong
Problem solved

2018-11-22 03:49:01 UTC

I like the way you think @Beemann

2018-11-22 03:49:36 UTC

Slave mentalities are for chumps ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-11-22 03:49:49 UTC

Slave moralities even

2018-11-22 03:49:59 UTC

<:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-11-22 03:50:21 UTC

Beemann over here be droppin some ***wOkEnEsS*** on us

2018-11-22 03:53:52 UTC

The slave morality results in your victimization and oppression. It is subjugation seeking
The master morality is the path of the ubermensch, the alpha and omega chad. It is the only way to truly achieve historically significant chaditude, and it involves deciding that some things are, in fact, totally correct

2018-11-22 03:54:58 UTC

Inb4 asking what those things are

2018-11-22 15:44:28 UTC

http://www.universitytimes.ie/2018/11/tedx-trinity-postpones-feminism-talk-after-diversity-objections/

_"TEDx Trinity has postponed a proposed discussion on modern-day feminism, after several students objected to the all-white, all-Irish panel that was scheduled to speak."_

I'm sorry, you people are all too Irish to talk in Ireland

2018-11-22 15:48:19 UTC

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't white people indigenous to Ireland?

2018-11-22 15:48:38 UTC

Perhaps I should rephrase.

2018-11-22 15:48:50 UTC

Aren't the indigenous people of Ireland white?

2018-11-22 15:49:04 UTC

**YES**

2018-11-22 15:49:54 UTC

Maybe they should show up to the conference draped in raw wool and smeared in woad.

2018-11-22 15:51:09 UTC

Maybe they should all drop dead

2018-11-22 15:51:38 UTC

Also from the article

_"Shubhangi Karmakar, the Treasurer of the Graduate Studentsโ€™ Union (GSU) and the founder of Repealist, said in a tweet that โ€œpale and female is getting a bit stale tooโ€."_

2018-11-22 15:51:46 UTC

Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp

2018-11-22 15:52:52 UTC

Nothing can save them. The European continent is lost.

2018-11-22 16:48:41 UTC

at least we're not sinking in the atlantic

2018-11-22 18:15:54 UTC

Ireland has no counter voice to the progressives

2018-11-22 18:19:20 UTC

Our media and academics adore them, both our big parties pander to them, we have passive aggressive progressives on the ground, we've voted overwhelmingly progressive in the last two referendums, and we're all spouting the same "EU great, migrant crisis great, everything I don't like is alt right" rhetoric

2018-11-22 18:19:48 UTC

At least the UK and US have some parties offering diversity of thought

2018-11-22 18:21:01 UTC

Our 'alternative', the national party, is teensy tiny

2018-11-22 19:07:34 UTC

Reminds me of my home country of Canada

2018-11-22 19:13:00 UTC

Wow

2018-11-22 19:13:08 UTC

That sounds like hell

2018-11-22 19:13:21 UTC

God, could you imagine being a conservative in Sweden?

2018-11-22 19:14:19 UTC

Or even just a left or right libertarian would probably still be ostracized there

2018-11-22 19:14:28 UTC

Centrist

2018-11-22 19:15:00 UTC

I can't wait until we start hearing about people being actively punished by the government for wrongth--oh wait that's already been happening nvm

2018-11-22 19:38:55 UTC

The big difference here in Canada is that our alternative (conservative) party is too corporatist and in some cases too traditionally conservative. The liberals were our center-left party that were supposed to be the reasonable ones, but they've fallen off the rails entirely and joined the NDP (socialist party) when it comes to social issues but not on economic issues.

2018-11-22 19:39:19 UTC

Cons also like progshit

2018-11-22 19:39:33 UTC

Liberals are just neolibs+socjus like the Dems

2018-11-22 19:39:51 UTC

This is why the People's Party is the only real opposition rn

2018-11-22 19:41:20 UTC

I would say that the liberals were still pro-capitalist but at this point I don't even think Trudeau takes the economy into consideration. Back when the whole pipeline fiasco had started in the news, Trudeau ran off to NYU for a public speaking event. He still hasn't done anything, essentially letting our oil industry pack up and leave.

2018-11-22 19:41:53 UTC

He's spineless to the point where he's afraid to take sides

2018-11-22 19:42:13 UTC

Neolibs aren't necessarily pro market, just pro corporate

2018-11-22 19:42:23 UTC

Pro global trade as well

2018-11-22 19:43:51 UTC

I could probably go all day typing walls of text about this stuff. I need a youtube channel lol

2018-11-22 19:43:58 UTC

Wew

2018-11-22 19:44:34 UTC

But yeah the PPC is really the only alternative to stagnation

2018-11-22 19:44:45 UTC

Biggest issue here is apathy

2018-11-22 19:45:56 UTC

I haven't really taken much of a look at the PPC, just kinda assumed that it would be taken over by ethnonationalists as those types of parties usually are

2018-11-22 19:46:54 UTC

They're getting a lot of the more actual right wing con base and the libertarians from what I can tell
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/platform

2018-11-22 19:47:08 UTC

So far it's just Classical Liberalism: The Party

2018-11-22 19:47:45 UTC

I really hope so, if they can gain some popularity and maintain this center-left/right balance then I would definitely vote for them in 2019

2018-11-22 19:48:26 UTC

I know a hardcore Libertarian who immediately signed up to be a founding member

2018-11-22 19:48:54 UTC

Otherwise I don't think I'd even vote. Scheer just seems like a conservative version of Trudeau but with a better speaking ability

2018-11-22 19:49:57 UTC

That's why Bernier left the cons

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