Message from @H E C K
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That sounds like hell
God, could you imagine being a conservative in Sweden?
Or even just a left or right libertarian would probably still be ostracized there
Centrist
I can't wait until we start hearing about people being actively punished by the government for wrongth--oh wait that's already been happening nvm
The big difference here in Canada is that our alternative (conservative) party is too corporatist and in some cases too traditionally conservative. The liberals were our center-left party that were supposed to be the reasonable ones, but they've fallen off the rails entirely and joined the NDP (socialist party) when it comes to social issues but not on economic issues.
Cons also like progshit
Liberals are just neolibs+socjus like the Dems
This is why the People's Party is the only real opposition rn
I would say that the liberals were still pro-capitalist but at this point I don't even think Trudeau takes the economy into consideration. Back when the whole pipeline fiasco had started in the news, Trudeau ran off to NYU for a public speaking event. He still hasn't done anything, essentially letting our oil industry pack up and leave.
He's spineless to the point where he's afraid to take sides
Neolibs aren't necessarily pro market, just pro corporate
Pro global trade as well
I could probably go all day typing walls of text about this stuff. I need a youtube channel lol
Wew
But yeah the PPC is really the only alternative to stagnation
Biggest issue here is apathy
I haven't really taken much of a look at the PPC, just kinda assumed that it would be taken over by ethnonationalists as those types of parties usually are
They're getting a lot of the more actual right wing con base and the libertarians from what I can tell
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/platform
So far it's just Classical Liberalism: The Party
I really hope so, if they can gain some popularity and maintain this center-left/right balance then I would definitely vote for them in 2019
I know a hardcore Libertarian who immediately signed up to be a founding member
Otherwise I don't think I'd even vote. Scheer just seems like a conservative version of Trudeau but with a better speaking ability
That's why Bernier left the cons
Because Scheer is going to do a lot of the same shit as Trudeau
I might be convincing my lefty sisters to vote for PPC, fwiw
They don't want NDP and admit Trudeau sucks. A Scheer alternative is perfect
This could be good for the PPC really. They got a lot of media attention when they formed, but idk if it will be enough
I can't help but think of communism when I hear the People's Party
Yeah it's weird branding
C'est la vie
I get its populism and all but still
Makes me think of the Reform Party
National liberalism aka civic nationalism
Just watched Tim's vid on hillary... is it just me or is this a "Let them eat Cake" moment?
africa does not exist
The weird thing is I agree with Hilary seeing Europe need's to get it's act together.......on the other hand she was a high profile Senator in the 00's and her and Bush Jr were in a position to slam the open borders crowd down and also never let the white nationalism crowd bubble up if they had passed some fair centrist common sense immigration reform. Like her delivering that message to europe is like Chris Christie telling people eat your veges ie a bad messenger even if the message might be reasonable
Actually that's not the issue at all
I told people about this and they called it fake news
Hillary supporters literally denying it
She just wet her finger, stuck it up in the air, and gauged which way the wind was blowing. She has no guiding beliefs or convictions other than her divine right to power.
Clinton: lets stop populism by adopting populist policies!