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How can you be so sure in such chaotic timers?
Are you really not aware of the data thatโs been collected? Every phone call, every text, every email ...?
Real patriots have the means to protect themselves. And ORGANIZE... that is the key
Yeah, Iโm not turning on my neighbor just yet fella. Trumpโs got this.
We cant just sit back and continue to be lazy consuming cows while trump โhandles thingsโ it will take massive actions on all our parts...
Who are you ready to take arms against?
Yet to be determined
Faith. Faith that our military that loves, adores, and supports Trump will stand up for him. Faith that society will continue to run and chaos will not ensue. Iโm really hoping that those who can organize and have a desire to go ahead and do so. I would be useless. I can shoot but have no gun, my ribs and L3/4 were fractured in August and so was my right fifth metatarsal. Iโm still getting used to not being booted and would be no help.
Please tell me you donโt own an RV๐คฃ
I wish
Iโm all for those who want to and have the means to organize. Iโm still trying to figure out how to get to DC on the 6.
@Livingstone most of the US military never see combat. You have value.....
Iโm not willing to give up on this Union, I cherish it. Many do.
Split union?
New country ?
Fingers crossed no.
The blue cities cant survive without the red farms
Most of American is not dirty but wilderness...
City*
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No split Union. Iโm not willing to give up on that. The moment you start your little militia....you face consequences
?
Law and order. Itโs an information war.
Little militias are what took down THE BRITISH government during the revolution
There is nothing wrong with America or itโs constitution. The issue is the corrupt government officials and shoddy policies as well as crummy social trends like identity politics and the thought that nationalism is bad and deadly.
You want revolution. There no room for that here.
I donโt WANT revolution. But Iโm not scared of it brother
Correct. Problem is being fixed as we speak.
Maybe he wants to be prepared in case, I really donโt want this to happen but I would never deny itโs a possibility, Biden goes into office?
If Biden gets into office, itโs because it was lawful.
Being prepared for anything is what makes Americans different .
We have the guns and will to do so
If Trump remains in office itโs because it was lawful.
I will fight for my constitutional rights along side our army, not against it.
If trump remains in office rest assured โitโ will kick off....
For better or worse
Youโre scared of ....All 3 Biden supporters?
I really hope that whoever goes into office does so lawfully. That being said, I kind of need more proof that Biden won. With all the records trump broke in demographics and incumbent turnout, it just baffles me that Biden got more votes than Obama.
Itโs coming!
It was fraud. Jmo
@EnlightenedHobo, you just advanced to level 5!
All the info is coming guys.
Trump won, hands down.
Depends on what you call a Biden supporter? Most of my democratic friends didnโt like him. He was like. Last choice. Iโm pretty sure the only Biden supporters are in congress trying to figure out how to take over his presidency once he gets inaugurated.
How many yโall from Arizona? Iโm in Anthem
I know for a fact I have more guns than you @EnlightenedHobo lol Mississippi here
East Tennessee, baby.
Hahahaha
@Repeat originally from Louisiana . Know people from Mississippi. I believe you. Lol. I only need my AR and glock ๐
Guys. Letโs not allow the enemy to panic us. I know it sucks that trumps cards cannot all be revealed right now, rightfully so, but we have to hold the line.
It was institutionalized fraud at the very least.
Hopefully you can sleep better tonight after learning about Bush 9-11 and Obama allowing every single person to be monitored, including the โbad guysโ.
Good night patriots!
Itโll happen. I really think that everything will come to light. I think that it needs to be front and center.Once everything becomes declassified and itโs online, I am going to grab a bottle of cheap bubbly and read it. Good night!๏ฟผ
Guys this is it...our revolution. The whole world will watch what we do over the next month..
Lmfao
@Livingstone youโre assuming the mainstream media will report any findings....
Imagine if POTUS had simply been declared the winner on election night.
Nothing would have changed.
We are so much stronger now.๐
Have faith in the plan. Ok gn for real
Nite
Weโre gonna have to fight to some degree at some point
Itโll happen. I think that it will have to be covered. If enough people show up in January then it will make news. Even if they have to say look at all these idiots.๏ฟผ๏ฟผ
Iโm really really hoping that it will all come to light. And if any evidence is enough to change a vote from blue to red then the media has to cover it. They canโt just say oh we donโt know how this happened. They would actually have to explain it.
Yeah. I dont think think the would.
Itโs that bad
They would just literally NOT report any of it. Look at the hunter Biden case
But then they would lose their credibility. I mean yes most of them have zero credibility!. But all of those people who are clueless would want an explanation. And they would find it. And right wing or right leaning media. Or on YouTube. Thank goodness for people like Robert.
No
Most people would just accept anything that confirms their normality bias
He has done a great job of avoiding Hunter Biden and twisting the words of Barr. ๏ฟผ
Ya think? Lol> Most people would just accept anything that confirms their normality bias
@EnlightenedHobo Yeah, that's a thing, right?
I cant see with all the highlight
See. This is why I think we have a failed education system. People need to know how to think critically. And know what it is like when somebody disagrees. And how to handle it gracefully. And then find facts, check credibility, and formulate a new opinion.
Like CNN is using a fact checker that is a freelance person that has worked for CNN for 16 years. Thatโs literally just one source.
That would be sweet, yes. Unfortunately, some people chase fiction after fiction. It's sad.
The world would be so boring if everybody agreed on everything. Itโs important to be able to Debate and not argue. Arguing can include personal attacks, name-calling, and other awful things. A dinner table debate encourages growth. Because if both people walk away and have learned some thing that is a great day. If only one person walks away learning some thing then it was only OK. Ideas should always be challenged. There should always be room to grow.๏ฟผ
There is a difference between discussing opinions and discussing objective reality. That's where it falls apart. Not everything can be equally valid just because someone prefers that reality is something it's not.
Anyway, maybe the 60th time is a charm. Makes we wonder why they would have wasted time, resources and credibility this whole time if they had what they needed.
I think that is where people forget that two truths can exist at the same time and not make the other any less true. The sky is grey. The sky is blue. Yes. Most of the time itโs blue where I am standing but it is true that it is also grey at times. One of my favorite quotes about belief systems is as follows: Luke, you are going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
The issue is that our country holds two very different point of views. Itโs reached a point where there is little, if any, commonalities.
Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post, right. Right now the only newspaper I have any respect for is the New York Post
I saw that the Pillow guy was funding his law suits.
TN Senators have done you guys proud this year!
@Livingstone you do realize yourtube is activitly censoring the the right. Have shurt down channels & vlogs.
Merry Christmas, @busillis ... How are you? Things have been excited in your neck of the woods lately, if I remember correctly...
Driving back to Tennessee... Merry Christmas to you too.
Do you have any thoughts on the bomber.
That's what I thought... So messed up.
Haven't formulated any opinions yet. Thank God it wasn't worse. Any word on a manifesto?
No manifesto.
Say you heard about the woman that he did at the houses too
I think that's his daughter
The one here in LA?
Yes
If you scroll back up in this channel are the other channel I posted a picture of the side by side.
Not to mention the fact the first house it was transferred to her was transferred back into the guy's mother's name so it sounds like some family b*******.
I can't really see what I'm typing so
Apparently the guy also lived in Nashville his whole life...
I saw the articles before. Flower St is not somewhere that a lot of people tend to live. That's right in the middle of downtown LA. Most people live in the suburbs.
According to news reports
She started working in Knoxville for a startup that creates software for music venues it's like a ticketing platform that does other things or an erp for music venues
I can't believe the news media doxxed her like that - publishing her address on the deed like that.
That company got bought out and she went to the company that purchased the first company and then that happened again and that's why she's in LA
Are that's the theory
Yeah they docks the grandma too
judging how she always went with the company that bought the previous company she worked for it makes me wonder if she's a equity holder in these companies
So you heard the part about dude having an explosive handling permit from the ATF in the '90s
We'll find out more than we want to know in time.
Maybe
293 I like figuring it out on my own trying to
Have they established a familial link yet or are you just speculating?
I'm just speculating...
But they're trickling out the evidence..
I was already thinking it then I looked at the picture of them side by side they favor one another quite a bit.
Plus he was never married and it looks like her mom was never married or there was no father that was talked about in the news articles.
And then why would this guy need a house to this woman and then she deeds it back to the grandma.
It doesn't make sense that you just need a house to some random woman.
Then she deeds it back to the mother
It could have been an unhealthy crush... Maybe she worked as a waitress when she was in college and he took a liking to her. He does a creepy deed thing and she doesn't want the tax liability and her Grandma might be in a position to absorb it. Who knows?
She dewded it back to the bombers mom
This guy have been planning this for quite some time.
Or at least thinking about it.
I don't think it's likely that you could tool up to that kind of explosive capability with no practice or skill set in that regard.
I think he targeted AT&t because there's some kind of grudge against AT&t.
With all of these quit claim deed would it be to get around the death tax? If he had the house deeded to the girl and then the girl deeded it back to his mom?๏ฟผ
That's why I figure at some point there will be a manifesto or some sort of explanation. It could be in the mail to several places. If he cared enough to take care of the deeds, he would have made arrangements to explain himself, I would think.
Possibly good point..
Also a good point
I wonder if you blow yourself up if you still have to file form 709
Or is someone else on the hook
Damn doc was right the guy told someone that he had cancer
Either that or he was using the cancer excuse to explain his odd actions.
Doc came up with the cancer thing
As part of his profile.
Doesnโt seem like itโs an excuse if he thought he was terminal. His priorities changed.
He also pivoted to the reason AT&t was targeted was because someone was injured by ATT and that seems to what the article above is indicating.
Apparently, his Dad who died in 2010 worked for Bell South/AT&T.
Maybe it wasn't excuse
He had been thinking about this for a long time.
I'm just saying that anyone can claim to have cancer. If someone seemed to be getting their affairs in order ahead of a criminal act and someone they know became suspicious, they can just say that they have cancer and people will understand. It will be interesting to see if a doctor will come forward to confirm the diagnosis.
It doesn't seem like you would be able to create an explosion like that without practice.
Or tangible knowledge with material sources.
Fair enough
To the man with a hammer, every problem is a nail.
So you're saying the dude was sitting on loads of explosives?
I am saying that whatever his motive, that he already had these expertise is a good assumption.
Agree
That's what I was saying too
Like the guy who built the armored bulldozer, he was already a welder. He had the bulldozer and then it was just a matter of using his welding skills. I think only he died in that event also.
Hey Did
If I remember correctly he had some beef with some City official
Or someone in the town
Well the city officials were also the family that owned most the property and business. Honestly you really do see his point of view after watching the documentary where they interview everyone. You can tell straight away they are corrupt hustlers. But he should have just sold his stuff and went and traveled.
โViolence is the last resort of an incompetent man.โ
An oversimplification for sure but a good rule of thumb. Once you make a person, community or organization your enemy, you must either finish it or submit to their authority. Choices I donโt care for ๐
Probably best not to make too many enemies.
Itโs really the fact that war doesnโt end well even when it does that detracts me from wanting to make enemies
I'm curious as to what explosives this guy was using?
I doubt we will know for 6 months. I bet they keep it under wraps. The concern I have is the ease at which a bad state actor or non state actor could cause hysteria with copy cat bombings or hoaxes. And then the increased laws, surveillance and measures taken for โsafetyโ.
Anybody could do this anytime they want it?
But why would they want to?
Idk
I mean other countries, domestic groups with agendas, like far left or far right, anyone who wants to heighten tension.
9/11 really changed American attitudes. We are as fearless as we used to be I think.
You're saying they do it because someone already did it? Not that they couldn't do it anytime this is just a good time.
I bet AT&t I'll spend a lot of money hardening their facilities that are close to streets.
I think itโs just an opportunity and people are already afraid because of the pandemic. We have become a nation that can not tolerate risk.
Risk of poverty, risk of violence, risk of failure, etc. this could galvanize people who are afraid to stay in step with the Party, to be 1984ish. Or to be taken advantage of by hostile countries. Fear is the best tool for authoritarians to use in controlling people
It's weird... I don't know if I buy the 5g theory. This guy was supposedly technical - some referred to him as a "computer guru". I wonder if they treated his Dad poorly at AT&T.
Also, his brother died of cancer in Sep 2018. https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/steve-warner-obituary?pid=190258077&page=2
Apparently, his Dad died of dementia.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9092055/Nashville-Christmas-bomber-claimed-cancer-attack.html
I thought the same thing about 5G.
In previous articles, his neighbors said that he was quiet and that they did not think he was overly political. Now, authorities are saying he was a conspiracy theorist.
Will never know if he was a conspiracy theorist or not all it takes is someone to say that.
I wonder if he was somehow treated bad by AT&t as a contract worker like doing alarm systems for some facility? Again pure speculation on my part.
Not to mention people talk a lot of s*** on the internet, who really knows what people actually think.
Of course... I worked very closely with a former terrorist for months in the same office and I had no idea about her past - until she was on the news being arrested for a cold case murder. So, anything is possible.
...
This guy didn't just come up with this last month...
I previously conjectured before I read that there was an issue with the backup generators that he was probably targeting the backup generators and fuel system and apparently they were damaged.
So somehow he had knowledge of that facility too I wonder when it was last remodeled or upgraded
Holy s***
That sounds like the kind of thing that would happen to me
One of the most surreal things ever for me...
It wouldn't really take knowledge of the building if you know about data centers and what the requirements would be for a government contract it would be easy to figure out there's generators in the building.
Backup according to news articles the battery backup system worked but it was unable to be charged by the generators... They probably cut the power to the whole block or more
The power could also be off until engineers verify that all systems are not dangerous.
Including the structure of the building
I worked closely with the woman who was one of the leaders of the SLA and had kidnapped Patty Hearst. She got technical training while in prison for the kidnapping. I worked with her in the late 90's early 00's. She apparently was the trigger person that killed a church lady during a bank robbery back in the day. They always suspected her, but couldn't prove it until then. She went back to prison because of it.
Wow? Is that the lady whose son is the da of San Francisco
Different person
She doesn't have any kids that I know of...
I thought Clinton pardoned the entire SLA?
He was supposed to, at least.
In return for the support he got.
I don't think he can pardon them for a state murder...
ah!
I knew Emily really well... I worked with her on data models for Intellectual Property rights. It said she worked for MGM, but she got her start at Disney after her first release from prison. She staged a hunger strike in order to get the training while still in prison.
Did you know the bomber was telling people he had cancer
Yes
Good to hear she is back inside.
I will drink tonight.
to that.
You were saying that before it was in the news?
yes?
That's what I thought
once we changed from Robert to Andy, that was obvious.
its usually the case with 60+ lone actors.
Well... she has already been paroled. Only served 4 years for the 2nd degree murder conviction. She served longer for the kidnapping.
Arrested 2002, plead guilty 2003, paroled 2007.
oh, right. I knew that. Its how you know your government is Lx.
I thought she had been arrested again.
When I knew her, she was a cranky, older lesbian. She always came in late on Fridays, because she went horseback riding at Griffith Park before coming into the office. I had no idea about her SLA past. Her story is absolutely crazy.
Time flies.
Her story is typical for that generation of Lx.
Lx?
Leftwing Extremists
Its why I know her name.
I see...
not that lesbian, if I remember correctly.
there was some free sex drama within the SLA
horseback riding is fun for the bourgeois revolutionaries. ๐
"Commisar Yolanda" probably enjoyed feeling like a red army cavalry field marshal.
Yeah... She and her husband came to the Bay area from Indiana. She started volunteering at a prison and met Cinque (sp?). They ended up with an open marriage and she became one of Cinque's concubines (essentially). That's what was so startling to me - it didn't match up the lesbian I had known.
or...elaborate? What didnt match up.
Her being owned by the general field marshal, and latering being an angry lesbian?
She was a grandmotherly type - in appearance only. A little temperamental, but not militant. She and her partner would come to company gatherings. They kind of kept to themselves, but she was a little abrasive, anyways. She was pretty stern. I remember asking her about her background a few times, because she could not answer some of the questions that I was asking her - and she was my Subject Matter Expert.
She didn't like being questioned.
what kind of business was this, if you dont mind me asking?
Entertainment software development... She was supposed to be an expert in Rights Licensing systems, because she was a manager that helped implement and maintain a system at Disney.
hahaha!
of course it had to be Disney! ๐
wonderful!
but the mismatch between sex-slave and angry lesbian is confusing? Want me to explain it?
it was common in the Lx scene of the 60ies, 70ies and partly the 80ies.
for ideological reasons.
It's not something that comes up in regular conversation.
Maybe not in your existence. ๐
anyways...Emily is one of those females who payed her church taxes for her bourgeois whiteness, by making her vagina available to the suppressed black man. Its one of the ways the maoist Lx can have absolution.
The more suppressed (antisocial) the black male is, the better.
I think part of the mismatch for me was that Emily reminded me (in appearance) of my mother. My mother was around the same age.
haha!
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