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2020-11-03 00:30:53 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I will just be relieved that it's no longer in the future.

2020-11-03 00:31:47 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

That's...plausible? Best response I can conjure.

2020-11-03 00:39:53 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Repealing 63 EPA regulations and introducing 0 is also not a good look for Trump, who claims to want clean air and water. Maybe just say the economy is more important. That's the honest answer.

2020-11-03 00:46:39 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Is this where we're officially chatting now?

2020-11-03 00:48:52 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

That's smart. Too chaotic otherwise.

2020-11-03 00:50:56 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's the actions I don't like. Tax rewards for wealthy people, record spending and smash-and-grab economic policies for short term gains. Helps only rich people. I'll be fine either way but it's wrong.

2020-11-03 00:52:09 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Too many libertarians here to have rules, I reckon.

2020-11-03 00:52:17 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

I kid. I kid.

2020-11-03 00:56:39 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

All but 2 republican and 3 democrat senators voted yea on that crime bill. Painting Biden as some kind of rogue draconian hawk is kind of facile, imo.

2020-11-03 00:57:35 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

@RoberGrulerEsq yes, it's very mysterious. I haven't the foggiest. Lmao

2020-11-03 00:59:37 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

@Gypsy_Warlord but in regard to justice reform, specifically, the crime bill is a partisan wash.

2020-11-03 01:01:24 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

@Nido the actual administration right now advocates entirely for autonomous reign of the president. They even have a name for that doctrine but I can't remember it. Point being, you can't have for only the guy you like.

2020-11-03 01:04:33 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

@RobertGrulerEsq I know it wasn't a good look but what we have now is Bill Barr...which speaks volumes about the intentions of the current administration. The guy is the living antithesis of everything for which you advocate. He's nearly psychotically pro police at any cost.

2020-11-03 01:15:53 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Ronald Reagan, hands down.

2020-11-03 01:16:33 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Oh, ever...still Ronald Reagan.

2020-11-03 01:17:02 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.

2020-11-03 01:17:29 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Richard Nixon won the biggest landslide in the history of the country.

2020-11-03 01:18:11 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

They think poorly of him because he implemented economic policies which were a ticking time bomb.

2020-11-03 01:18:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Richard Nixon lost only Pennsylvania.

2020-11-03 01:20:39 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Check 1974 plz. I don't knowledge to find it.

2020-11-03 01:21:02 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

68

2020-11-03 01:21:47 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Thank you, sir.

2020-11-03 01:22:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Yeah I guess electoral votes.

2020-11-03 01:25:19 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

@Shitty Kitty I wasn't disagreeing. Those were the All in the Family lyrics. Lol

2020-11-03 01:26:34 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Wilson's wife signed a lot of stuff after his stroke.

2020-11-03 01:27:29 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

@Shitty Kitty I don't know how old you are, so I won't bag on you. Lol

2020-11-03 01:28:38 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Wilson had some bad things go down. WW1 and the pandemic. Tough times.

2020-11-03 01:30:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

That's a fair question.

2020-11-03 01:37:02 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Except tycoons had Wilson's head over a barrel to implement the Federal Reserve. Greatest crime against Americans in our history and he had no choice. But for that, the rest would have been moot.

2020-11-03 01:40:04 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

The need for money is inexhaustible because it's not a zero sum game, by design. Itnhas been that way since 1913.

2020-11-03 01:41:30 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Losing the gold standard was a foregone conclusion when we created an inflationary economy.

2020-11-03 01:42:43 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

The gold standard was a physical, intrinsic reference for value.

2020-11-03 01:46:23 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

The Fed is a racket.

2020-11-03 01:46:47 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

They jerk the leash whenever they need.

2020-11-03 01:47:52 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

The Fed isn't monopolized by the government. It's privately owned. Even Trump couldn't do anything...and he tried, publicly.

2020-11-03 01:49:17 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

I don't believe they get things wrong by accident. It's all orchestrated.

2020-11-03 01:54:50 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

There is no safe lynch pin to pull.

2020-11-03 01:58:56 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Tbh I'm still stuck on squaring control over value and having no incentive for bias.

2020-11-03 02:05:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Ok so they do have financial incentive for bias. That was the part of your argument that had me concerned.

2020-11-03 02:05:56 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Or explanation

2020-11-03 02:07:04 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

That is inconceivable to me. Maybe I'm just slow.

2020-11-03 02:09:23 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

But blindly enrich someone else. Got it.

2020-11-03 02:13:44 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Unless it always eventually swings the direction of everyone with a stake and they accept it for overall gain.

2020-11-03 02:14:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

I'm not sure it scales well but ok.

2020-11-03 02:17:37 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

One for you, ten for me and they are all worth half now...and on and on.

2020-11-03 02:18:56 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

I already screenshotted and forwarded to the appropriate authorities. Don't answer your door.

2020-11-03 02:20:26 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Sedition. Heresy.

2020-11-03 02:20:39 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Or some such

2020-11-03 02:21:08 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Lol

2020-11-03 02:22:38 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

My resume will be useless in a few years, hopefully, when I can move to Spain. Good talk.

2020-11-03 02:24:33 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

They can't automate my job unless there is some amazing ai involved. I'm pretty close to not needing it, though.

2020-11-03 02:25:36 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

I have something that uber-wealthy people can never have: Enough.

2020-11-03 02:55:56 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

I suppose what you call it depends on what you want. Settling? Absolutely, for what I want. Mediocre? From your assertions, I reckon our measures for that are very, very different.

2020-11-03 03:02:58 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

...and complacency is the whole idea. 100%

2020-11-03 04:51:52 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

@leftingfighter33 Why indeed? Those are important questions but not the only ones. If you start with a model in which the things you described are inherently good and the optimal prescription is the same for everyone, the answers are easy. I submit that it is neither the only model, nor the best one.

2020-11-03 04:52:39 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

@Gypsy_Warlord correct. I call it escaping early. Lol

2020-11-04 00:03:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

That looks like about it. Lol. I need to get over there now.

2020-11-05 02:08:33 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

That's why I keep mine in a vault where it can't hurt me.

2020-11-05 02:08:59 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Lol

2020-11-05 02:10:10 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

You sound like me 4 years ago. I get it. Really.

2020-11-05 02:10:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Too many bugs in Panama though. Not my style.

2020-11-05 02:12:08 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Yes, I know it seems like that. If you believe every claim of fraud, you're going to have a bad time.

2020-11-05 02:13:30 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And while there is nothing excluding the possibility, existence isn't determined by sheer volume of assertions.

2020-11-05 02:15:06 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

@LrnAshly did they succeed?

2020-11-05 02:17:39 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The second amendment isn't going anywhere, assassination suggestions are not cool and fighting phantoms you haven't met yet is kind of a self inflicted anxiety.

2020-11-05 02:24:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Even so, violence and threat of violence doesn't seem like it's not a thing.

2020-11-05 02:26:50 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's precisely the election topic for a lot of people. One-issue voters are real.

2020-11-05 02:29:24 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

How many times have you heard "if it wasn't for _____"? I'm fine with one-issue voters but that's why they don't resolve certain things; they are dangling carrots for people to chase.

2020-11-05 02:32:11 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Mixtures of preferences are so varied that they literally cannot be accommodated. We have to pick which puddle of vomit to lick.

2020-11-05 02:33:54 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Most of the Democrats I know are baffled by the importance placed on 1930's-style displays of fanaticism.

2020-11-05 02:34:37 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

We actually talk about such things.

2020-11-05 02:36:11 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

No one is going to embody all those things in all their forms. Like I said, we pick which puddle of vomit we prefer to lick.

2020-11-05 02:37:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

@Doc The current paradigm is that if you don't back a plausible winner, you're missing your vote away.

2020-11-05 02:38:09 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

*pissing

2020-11-05 02:38:33 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Correct. But no reasonable alternative.

2020-11-05 02:39:16 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Canada has a higher proportion of sane people, I reckon.

2020-11-05 02:39:32 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Lol

2020-11-05 02:41:20 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

If you were talking about Jorgensen, I didn't even know she was a female until last night. Libertarians either don't have or are unwilling to spend the money to get their messages out.

2020-11-05 02:41:30 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Later maw

2020-11-05 02:41:59 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Later @Maw

2020-11-05 02:43:12 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Well, they'll need some or will have to be creative with social media exhibition.

2020-11-05 02:57:12 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

We also have never had an administration like this before. To borrow a phrase, maybe some of the claims are "fake news". Maybe.

2020-11-05 03:01:48 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

What that tells you might not be what you want to hear. If the very first thing a nominee does is claim that of they don't win, it's rigged, you might want to think about it harder. (I'm not even talking about this election.)

2020-11-05 03:09:51 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Correct. That's why it sounds like fake news. Do you think they think no one would notice?

2020-11-05 03:10:51 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

For real. Do you think they would go through that trouble and jeopardize it with a silly gaffe like that?

2020-11-05 03:12:01 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The problem is that all anyone has to do is say something out loud and it becomes a thing.

2020-11-05 03:12:38 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Except it wasn't...see how easy it is to just make claims?

2020-11-05 03:14:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

No one thought they would get away with smuggling in 100,000 purely Biden votes. If that doesn't sound right, I don't know what to tell you.

2020-11-05 03:15:10 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Trump absolutely needs to call for a recount in Wisconsin.

2020-11-05 03:16:03 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It would be egregiously negligent to not call for a recount under 1%. He shouldn't even need to ask.

2020-11-05 03:17:58 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's 20k, no?

2020-11-05 03:19:10 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Sounds about right but still, 1% and I'm recounting as a matter of principle.

2020-11-05 03:20:20 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Maybe they'll uncover more fodder for conspiracy theories.

2020-11-05 03:20:41 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

By maybe I mean definitely.

2020-11-05 03:21:28 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Which ones haven't?

2020-11-05 03:22:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It called a fire hose strategy.

2020-11-05 03:22:47 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Lol

2020-11-05 03:23:04 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I picked up on that. Lol

2020-11-05 03:45:29 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I would pay.

2020-11-05 03:45:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

To see that.

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