Message from Daniel van Straaten in Willem Petzer Live Chat #theology

2018-07-23 18:43:44 UTC  

@Daniel van Straaten She's excellent. Have you read her Secret Thoughts?

2018-07-23 19:45:12 UTC  

@Malcolm the Seceder this is a great group on FB

2018-07-23 19:45:56 UTC  

@Daniel van Straaten Hmmm I'm not a Libertarian though

2018-07-23 19:45:57 UTC  

Ditsem! @Malcolm the Seceder, you just advanced to level 7!

2018-07-23 19:46:39 UTC  

What are you a fan of?

2018-07-23 19:46:50 UTC  

How do you define libertarian?

2018-07-23 19:47:48 UTC  

Liberal on social issues like drugs, sex, alcohol, smoking, beards

2018-07-23 19:49:54 UTC  

Malcolm they are talking english again

2018-07-23 19:57:07 UTC  

@Malcolm the Seceder Willem Petzer describes himself as a Paleo Libertarian

I appreciate leaders like Rand and Ron Paul.

2018-07-23 19:58:28 UTC  

I would be closer to Pat Buchanan

2018-07-23 19:58:52 UTC  

But we're also talking in a religious context. There should be no libertarianism in religion

2018-07-23 19:59:00 UTC  

Except where the Bible gives it

2018-07-23 21:29:08 UTC  

@Daniel van Straaten What sort of things do you chat about on that forum?

2018-07-23 21:39:42 UTC  

Are you on FB? It is focused on the reformed (theological sense) view of politics.

2018-07-23 21:41:05 UTC  

The main guys are reformed baptist but some are presbyterian

2018-07-23 21:44:27 UTC  

They have a website called

2018-07-23 21:50:17 UTC  

I like Ayn Rand

2018-07-23 21:50:32 UTC  

She's a fire breather :)

2018-07-23 22:57:17 UTC  

Nope what's the thesis?

2018-07-23 22:59:56 UTC  

I like Ayn Rand more because she's so extreme and absolutist not so much her extreme libertarianism

2018-07-24 06:23:24 UTC  

Isaiah 40:22
It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;
Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved.

2018-07-24 06:56:54 UTC  

@Deejay from Earth Poetic speech. Common among the hebrews and kindred folk of their race. Or do you imagine that a snake actually spoke to Eve and that all of Adam kind was doomed to death because she ate a fruit?

2018-07-24 07:05:46 UTC

2018-07-24 07:07:55 UTC  

@Deejay from Earth Psalms are poems. The prophets often spoke in prose to convey ideas. The Messiah taught in parables.

2018-07-24 07:10:25 UTC  

The descriptions of Earth in the Bible is literal. The spiritual teachings is metaphor and parables and whatnot. I have all the scientific proof for flat earth, you're welcome to post your arguments for discussion under <#469490581899575297>.

2018-07-24 07:11:44 UTC  

@Deejay from Earth All right then

2018-07-24 10:08:47 UTC  

It is not a profession of faith, which may indeed be insincere, but a confession of faith, which by definition is sincere, that indicates one is a Christian.

2018-07-24 12:57:47 UTC  

I find myself thinking about this alot with threats of War in SA and the wolves at the door. Weird thing is I am not religious. But, I am worried we on a course that we cant come back from.

2018-07-24 13:01:56 UTC  

In todays context with the rising Anti white sentiment...This just seems very fitting .“Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.

2018-07-24 13:03:50 UTC  

I worry about the bad guys(satanists) hijacking legitimate concern for white people and injecting racial socialism to counterbalance their neoliberalism, and putting that ideology in peoples' hearts in order to cut of the connection to god within.

2018-07-24 13:05:36 UTC  

as a non white person, I know that the anti white are anti freedom, but I'm worried that stirring up (white)racial nationalism is an evil ploy to bury spiritual truth

2018-07-24 13:29:03 UTC  

Valid concerns... Wish i had answers to assure you of anything, but none of us have answers that we all agree on, so isn't that why we are brought together to talk about these things, share our experiences and our observations, learn from one another and then go about reasoning until we settle on a common understanding that we all agree on.

2018-07-24 13:31:00 UTC  

I see the battle now between globalists and nationalists as the same as the battle between catholics and protestants, basically the fight against centralized control and freedom of ideas

2018-07-24 13:31:15 UTC  

old battle, new clothes