I would be closer to Pat Buchanan

But we're also talking in a religious context. There should be no libertarianism in religion

Except where the Bible gives it

@Daniel van Straaten What sort of things do you chat about on that forum?

Are you on FB? It is focused on the reformed (theological sense) view of politics.

The main guys are reformed baptist but some are presbyterian

They have a website called reformedlibertarian.com

This is a great article
http://reformedlibertarian.com/articles/philosophy/self-interest/

I like Ayn Rand

She's a fire breather :)

Have you read ?

https://www.amazon.com/Without-Prayer-Rand-Close-System/dp/0940931508

Nope what's the thesis?

I like Ayn Rand more because she's so extreme and absolutist not so much her extreme libertarianism

Isaiah 40:22
It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;
Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved.

@Deejay from Earth Poetic speech. Common among the hebrews and kindred folk of their race. Or do you imagine that a snake actually spoke to Eve and that all of Adam kind was doomed to death because she ate a fruit?

@Deejay from Earth Psalms are poems. The prophets often spoke in prose to convey ideas. The Messiah taught in parables.

The descriptions of Earth in the Bible is literal. The spiritual teachings is metaphor and parables and whatnot. I have all the scientific proof for flat earth, you're welcome to post your arguments for discussion under <#469490581899575297>.

@Deejay from Earth All right then

It is not a profession of faith, which may indeed be insincere, but a confession of faith, which by definition is sincere, that indicates one is a Christian.

I find myself thinking about this alot with threats of War in SA and the wolves at the door. Weird thing is I am not religious. But, I am worried we on a course that we cant come back from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwsOdsxDZh0

In todays context with the rising Anti white sentiment...This just seems very fitting .“Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.

I worry about the bad guys(satanists) hijacking legitimate concern for white people and injecting racial socialism to counterbalance their neoliberalism, and putting that ideology in peoples' hearts in order to cut of the connection to god within.

as a non white person, I know that the anti white are anti freedom, but I'm worried that stirring up (white)racial nationalism is an evil ploy to bury spiritual truth

Valid concerns... Wish i had answers to assure you of anything, but none of us have answers that we all agree on, so isn't that why we are brought together to talk about these things, share our experiences and our observations, learn from one another and then go about reasoning until we settle on a common understanding that we all agree on.

I see the battle now between globalists and nationalists as the same as the battle between catholics and protestants, basically the fight against centralized control and freedom of ideas

old battle, new clothes

Yeah in principle it's the same.. Context just differs. Context is important no doubt since it's the feminine influence of our emotions, and principles i personally think is the dominant masculine that influences our reason. So my bias here is aligned with the principles of God the Father, not the context within mother nature. But I'm also not saying context doesn't matter at all.

I see the far right as a hijacking of the (truth)'movement' by the opposition, either to pull people away from more individual spiritual truth towards a group ideology. I mean it's clear to see the similarities between the over the top alt right in the states(racial purity stormfront) and our BLF kooks here

I don't think most of us on here are far right or even right or even racist. I don't see myself as alt right far right, right or right of right. I am just concerned that Democracy in South Africa is dying or has died.

I agree @Graeme the Guerrilla (no pun)

just that I think there is a larger thing happening

like the video response to willem's video

yes dumbness

I've always seen far left as full on government, far right as full on anarchy, and the centre being limited government.. The modern day left and right seem to be mirroring each other.

and I think that not everyone is genuine

I think the 2d plot is better(not perfect)

Perhaps there is no logic to this or meaning

left is social assistance, right is you're on your own buddy, top is full authoritarian bottom is complete individual freedom

I hope Julius is a big troll and just a populist who talks crap but doesnt believe in his rhetortic