But I think you're dramatizing, you have other options than suicide

I like to think I am trustworthy for my partner, so we are out there, but it will be difficult to find someone if you do nothing but wallow in negativity and self-loathing.

name 3 options a man who doesnt want to be a father and doesnt want to pay for a kid he didnt want has

Celibacy, vasectomy and non reproductive sex

getting the snip, using protection, or just not having sex... or find a girl willing to take it in the ass

i meant afterwards

also we are getting really close to a birth control pill for men 😃

after the kid is born

Oh, yeah, after that I guess you could declare bankruptcy... maybe try to sue her for getting a kid behind your back but I doubt you'll get far.

After there is a baby, yeah, way harder

Although not all women will ask for child support

it's better to be preventative, but it is why we are trying to fight for more protection to fathers

9/10 women ask for childsupport

If you don't want to stay in a relationship with her, then I guess your best bet is to be unable to find

trying to be productive instead of just complaining.

But you're not a father now as far as I can tell so yeah, I agree, better to work on prevention

but when prevention is nolonger an option suicide is painless

no suicide is not painless

only if you do it right and dont fuck it up

no, that's not true at all

suicide is immensely destructive to those in your life

even a bullet to the head, you will be in extreme pain for a few seconds as your nerves are still completely active

Honestly, you're not even there yet. And if you were, there would be people you can talk to that could help you

And I mean, killing yourself is giving up ALL the money you'd have been making instead of part of it so not sure why it's better

thats why you destroy all the money beforehand

ive thought this shit through incase i ever got entrapped

then don't get entrapped, be preventative instead

I'm talking about future money. Once you're dead you can't earn it and buy stuff you want. You're losing a lot more than some of your money. It's disproportionate

you are leaping to very big extremes that don't even apply to you yet

once your dead the child support ends

So does everything else. For you

im thinking ahead unlike most males

no, you are thinking to extremes, thinking ahead would be taking preventive steps like we mentioned earlier

and if those all fail (With my luck they will) I know what to do

my life is pretty meaningless anyways so if i died tomarrow not much lost

it is really hard to get a girl pregnant with the snip, and if you do want kids later, the procedure is reversible

I was never really suicidal before my dad kept saying he was gonna kill himself and not doing it so many times

now its kinda rubbed off on me a bit

you will continue to get no where if you continue to wallow in self pity, the only way you get anywhere is to try and be more productive with your life.

what self pitty

you're acting like you're already locked in for 18 years