Message from @Whitey

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2018-02-06 14:17:28 UTC  

black sex machine can be interpreted as all black people thereby being a collective

2018-02-06 14:18:12 UTC  

even though there are indivduals (SHAFT) they make up a whole body (sex machines)

2018-02-06 14:20:05 UTC  

silence speaks volumes

2018-02-06 14:21:53 UTC  

The collective may be 'created' as you say but it exists becasue people act like one.

2018-02-06 14:22:15 UTC  

Another example from the ever on top of Father Ted

2018-02-06 14:24:29 UTC  

He offends Asians, which then results in all asians on the island taking offence. Therby acting as a collective and being imune to what a lite joke, also showing that collectives can have similar traits like being humourless unless and the 'whites' expence (see bar scene in same episode)

2018-02-06 14:27:29 UTC  

It's still individuals taking offense. It's also not that irrational if ted is insulting traits that they all share or denigrating all people who belong to that group

2018-02-06 14:29:42 UTC  

"A society can be reduced to the level of cooperating (or not cooperating in the case of socialist societies) individuals."

2018-02-06 14:30:16 UTC  

so if a group of cooperating individuals choose to suspend the rights of a non-cooperating individual...? 🤔

2018-02-06 14:30:20 UTC  


2018-02-06 14:31:33 UTC  

Do you mean gooks as a collective?

2018-02-06 14:31:45 UTC  

dont be ridiculous

2018-02-06 14:32:07 UTC  

individual gooks act as members of a greater hivemind

2018-02-06 14:32:19 UTC  

similar to Jesus's role in the holy trinity

2018-02-06 14:33:12 UTC  

In the same way insulting Christ is personally offensive to the holy spirit, insulting gooks is offensive to the chink hivemind

2018-02-06 14:34:52 UTC  

Individuals become collective take this scene from monty python French v English

2018-02-06 14:35:27 UTC  

There's no great confusion there. You just don't have a high enough iq to understand. There's nothing inconsistent with individualism about punishing individuals who violate a shared agreement among individuals to obey certain rules or face certain consequences

2018-02-06 14:35:34 UTC  

Individuals make up collectives and so in ways that have been blinded to me you seem to have a point John

2018-02-06 14:36:29 UTC  

Explaining using Gooks makes it understandable

2018-02-06 14:37:15 UTC  

I suppose their hive mind while maybe a collective it then demands them to act as indivduals and take over the media and large businesses

2018-02-06 14:38:40 UTC  

I am sorry for wasting your time discussing such an ignorant person as I was.

2018-02-06 14:39:34 UTC  

Now I will examine gooks acts on their on merits and not leep to blame them all for acts of some

2018-02-06 14:40:05 UTC  

woke ^

2018-02-06 14:40:13 UTC  

John is woke af on the gook question

2018-02-06 14:44:43 UTC  

maybe your IQ is too high for you to realise my original point still stands that you have no choice but to live in a collective

2018-02-06 14:45:10 UTC  

and can maybe renegotiate the terms of your social contract, but the contract is imposed upon you

2018-02-06 14:46:07 UTC  

That's like saying the grass is green. It's not an argument for socialist policies

2018-02-06 14:46:16 UTC  

oh but it is

2018-02-06 14:46:27 UTC  

how do you distribute land such that everyone has the opportunity to own a home

2018-02-06 14:46:28 UTC  

for example

2018-02-06 14:46:34 UTC  

you can't have indefinite property ownership

2018-02-06 14:46:41 UTC  

you can't own land as a corpse

2018-02-06 14:47:01 UTC  

you have a right to 50 years burial in the UK

2018-02-06 14:47:43 UTC  

you pay council tax for a right to stay on your land

2018-02-06 14:47:59 UTC  

you pay capital gains tax

2018-02-06 14:48:57 UTC  

understanding there are limits at which point putting your rights before those of everyone else becomes a problem is just being realistic

2018-02-06 14:50:16 UTC  

understanding there are hierarchies of rights is being realistic

2018-02-06 15:04:26 UTC  

although that wasn't the original point now, was it

2018-02-06 15:05:34 UTC  

you said:
"People consent to the legal structure at the start"
"Uh yeah obviously the collective oppressed people. That's why I'm against all forms of collectivism, including socialism and socialized healthcare"
"Not in a libertarian society where everyone consents to the law (for children implied consent until they can make their own choices) if you don't consent you can leave"
and my point has been, and will remain to be:
"you don't get a choice"