Message from @SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck

Discord ID: 618960217379569674


2019-09-04 23:28:39 UTC  

***gulags***

2019-09-04 23:29:08 UTC  

"We'll fix our old problems by making new ones"

2019-09-04 23:29:27 UTC  

And frankly he's not entirely without standing. Their claims to truth cannot be proven, because claims of the existencial CANNOT BE PROVEN.

2019-09-04 23:29:43 UTC  

The only issue is that he wants to criminalize this XD

2019-09-04 23:29:49 UTC  

_real fascism has never been tried before_

2019-09-04 23:30:01 UTC  

Oof.

2019-09-04 23:30:30 UTC  

Every time we've tried this, and **MANY** civilizations have tried to criminalize lying before, its always failed, because of the various different groundings for truth.

2019-09-04 23:31:14 UTC  

Best case scenario, the criminalization is so vauge that it doesn't achieve its goal and people work around it, meaning that its not a solution.

2019-09-04 23:31:19 UTC  

Worse case, gulags

2019-09-04 23:31:47 UTC  

Like every person was called a liar by Jesus.

2019-09-04 23:31:56 UTC  

The problem always come back to: who decides what is true.
And the answer always ends up as: the state.

2019-09-04 23:32:50 UTC  

I think the revolutionary idea that the individual should has been a thorn in the side of the rest of the world for some time.

2019-09-04 23:33:36 UTC  

people? having their own ideas? _never!_

2019-09-04 23:34:01 UTC  

I mean who would openly not agree with the state?! *Stares at you*

2019-09-04 23:36:16 UTC  

inner dialogue: **"oh no, if I say lot's of people they'll gulag me for saying things that are wrong, but if I say no-one then they'll gulag me for lying!!! what to do???"**

2019-09-04 23:36:39 UTC  

Gulag for sweating too much

2019-09-05 00:05:24 UTC  

>literally what if people actually believe the lies that they tell

2019-09-05 00:05:31 UTC  

>criminalizing beliefs

2019-09-05 00:05:36 UTC  

>literal thought-crimes

2019-09-05 00:05:42 UTC  

theyre already doing that

2019-09-05 00:06:55 UTC  

Yeah, IK

2019-09-05 00:22:11 UTC  

It should be one of those idea's relegated to politics for children: Illegalize lying - We've tried it, and its never worked.

2019-09-05 00:40:28 UTC  

"but miss, why don't we just make lying illegal?"
"every body, I want you to tell Suzy why that's stupid, and after we've all had a go we're going to spend the next fifteen minutes pointing and laughing at her"

2019-09-05 01:05:38 UTC  

: (

2019-09-05 04:53:40 UTC  

@Comando Many of his ideas are bizarre, but I'm mainly interested in the reciprocity aspect of his philosophy

2019-09-05 04:53:59 UTC  

Which extends the voluntary exchange concepts of libertarianism

2019-09-05 05:34:43 UTC  

I've spent most of the night since 12 arguing with some dumb cunt about Starship Troopers being a shitty satire of fascism because it holds to much of the original source material

2019-09-05 06:59:08 UTC  

I'm convinced Brexit is never going to happen at this point.

2019-09-05 07:00:04 UTC  

Sure feels like it, doesn't it?

2019-09-05 07:11:28 UTC  

Tbh we got further than I predicted I was thinking a second ref was comming after Mays shit deal...

2019-09-05 07:13:35 UTC  

But at least it seems BoJo is trying, I just hope people where I am from remember as a predominantly Leave area how hard our local MP fought to ignore our result

2019-09-05 07:17:56 UTC  

His best option now, and I think what he's been actally aiming for, is for an extension to Jan 2020 during which he fights an election on a people vs the parliament platform

2019-09-05 07:18:11 UTC  

He can now do that since he's purged his party of 21 wets

2019-09-05 07:59:41 UTC  

Tbh guys, most nations by now would've done somthing citizenry wise.

2019-09-05 08:00:00 UTC  

Half the reason we're in these messes is litterally because our citizenry does nothing.

2019-09-05 08:00:21 UTC  

Take the US, the US government has somthing to fear from it's citizenry.

2019-09-05 08:00:41 UTC  

The UK government on the other hand has -zero- to fear from it's citizenry.

2019-09-05 08:00:59 UTC  

That's how I feel about it all anyhow right now :V

2019-09-05 08:30:28 UTC  

**WHERE IS THE RAGE???**

2019-09-05 08:34:54 UTC  

Its true

2019-09-05 08:35:09 UTC  

As funny as that actually is