That's the... *err Curt, what are you doing?* problem

*if people do not agree with us... then... they can be persuaded to agree with us*

"persuaded"

Because he also thinks that Religious people are lying

So

Yeet all the religious people if they lie, I suppose 🤷🏻

Btw, he thinks Religion is a lie

Well what about that

Religion might be based on lies but it in itself isn't a lie.

and I'm also guessing that anybody who disagrees with the state position would be lying?
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Or be mentally ill of some kind

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Its not quite that severe. He does go into a reasonable amount of effort to suggest that offhand comments won't be criminalized, only those made in positions of authority of power which are untrue.

And we should totally take his word for that.

But religion is one of those area's where Curt says they are lying, and they do not believe that they are lying.

So... what happens next?

***gulags***

"We'll fix our old problems by making new ones"

And frankly he's not entirely without standing. Their claims to truth cannot be proven, because claims of the existencial CANNOT BE PROVEN.

The only issue is that he wants to criminalize this XD

_real fascism has never been tried before_

Oof.

Every time we've tried this, and **MANY** civilizations have tried to criminalize lying before, its always failed, because of the various different groundings for truth.

Best case scenario, the criminalization is so vauge that it doesn't achieve its goal and people work around it, meaning that its not a solution.

Worse case, gulags

Like every person was called a liar by Jesus.

The problem always come back to: who decides what is true.
And the answer always ends up as: the state.

I think the revolutionary idea that the individual should has been a thorn in the side of the rest of the world for some time.

people? having their own ideas? _never!_

I mean who would openly not agree with the state?! *Stares at you*

inner dialogue: **"oh no, if I say lot's of people they'll gulag me for saying things that are wrong, but if I say no-one then they'll gulag me for lying!!! what to do???"**

Gulag for sweating too much

>literally what if people actually believe the lies that they tell

>criminalizing beliefs

>literal thought-crimes

theyre already doing that

Yeah, IK

It should be one of those idea's relegated to politics for children: Illegalize lying - We've tried it, and its never worked.

"but miss, why don't we just make lying illegal?"
"every body, I want you to tell Suzy why that's stupid, and after we've all had a go we're going to spend the next fifteen minutes pointing and laughing at her"

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@Comando Many of his ideas are bizarre, but I'm mainly interested in the reciprocity aspect of his philosophy