Message from Pat-MA in MacGuyver - Skills & Academics #i-am-single
I've heard the opposite
ive heard the same from my friends about bumble
I was on both on-and-off for years (frat guy in a big school). Tinder has a lot of thots, but if you're a top tier man you'll do better on it because there are more options and can beat 85% of most.
Bumble. Less thots, but women have to take the initiative to message you first. Not always a good thing because most women are notoriously bad at taking initiative in dating.
I don't find Tinder to be helpful for improving your life
It's not supposed to be used like most men use it. Limit yourself to five to ten minutes a day of swiping and that's it. You will have much better odds talking to 3D women IRL
Of course. It's become a principle thing for me.
I understand that. At the end of the day, it's just a tool, depending on how you use it, but even if used in a non-degenerate way it's not a super effective one compared to other methods of trying to find a GF.
Bumble is deleting any gun related pics. They also donate to planned parenthood when you make a match.http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/24/bumble-presumes-all-of-its-users-support-planned-parenthood/
I've been out of the dating game since before dating apps where a thing. But I can not imagine that it is a very good way to meet good women.
it works if you're a morally shaky chad
@johnnyc yeah I was using hinge with good results. you should note that these apps are location dependent. the idea is you want to use pictures and/or blurbs that screen out girls you are not interested in. For instance, I had a picture of myself in a trump hat. I also had a comment taking a jab at hook up culture, implying I am looking for something serious
Again, come backs to how you use it. You can find quality women on there. You just have to do a lot of vetting and run your metal detector over lots of trash before you find buried treasure on the beach, metaphorically
@JesseJames me too. I think I just missed the cut-off too. Everyone I know IRL who got in a relationship after me got into it through a dating app.
I don't know anyone who is in a real relationship that started on line. The only people I know who uses it is to hook up. I hate it for you single guys. I started dating my wife at 17 and was married at 20 and had our first kid at 21.
@JesseJames a lot of negatives that were previously associated with internet dated have faded with a younger generation and more quality people have joined. a girl i took out last saturday asked me why i was using internet dating and i explained its a good way to meet people who can get a better feel for who you are prior to actually meeting you. i explained to her that I am not interested in dating any liberals or really anyone who doesnt like trump hence my picture with a trump hat. I also said if i was meeting some random girl at a bar or whatever then i really have no idea of who she is and vice versa. it'd be nice to meet people through family/friends but as you know we are a very disconnected people and many people find it difficult to meet people through friends.
The pros of Internet dating are its cons. You have access to lots of high quality people. The problem is they have access to lots of people who are probably higher quality than you.
hard to find guys higher quality than IE guys. if we do find them then we should recruit them
I am in a frat. It is hard AF to rip normies out of there happy life to join us.
Sometimes I tell guys that if you don't know what I'm talking about now, you will eventually. They are coming for us all
Patrick made a comment on the fireside last night about 80% of women are sleeping with the top 20% of men. I don't think anything in the near term is going to derail that trend so my only piece of advice to all the IE men out there is to get in the top 20% if you're not already there. self improvement needs to be a cornerstone of our movement
It's true in sales.
But regardless of the actual stat, I think it demonstrates a point.
@ThisIsChris I cant confirm or deny that stat but I know one thing and it's I'd rather be in a powerful position where I have choice rather than a weak position where I am being chosen
self-improvement is important, for sure. I just don't want our guys to be any more black-pilled than they have to be, and that stat if true would be very black-pilling
Men should always be in a constant state of improving themselves. That should continue even after marriage. If we're doing our jobs as men then that is par for the course no matter what that stat is.
It also keeps your woman attracted to you
^Yes, and motivates her to keep up, stay fit, and pull her weight in a relationship.
Go to public gatherings with your IE guys, they are your best wingmen. You all will be confident around each other and the body language that emanates from that is good for you.
What do you goys think about nightclubs/bars for the purpose of meeting grils? Are they inherently degenerate or just have some degenerate qualities?
Depends on the bar. In a small town the bar is where everyone hangs out so it's not as degenerate, but I'd steer clear of night clubs.
@Attrition in the desert Bars, great if you have game and a wingman. Women go here to socialize and find a mate. If you're looking for a girl who has never been with a man before or very religious, by all means, skip it. That said, it's a social environment and alcohol is a social lubricant, so people are open to talking or exchanging numbers.
Nightclubs: Garbage. Loud preventing dialogue, EXTREME competition (unless you're a 9/10 Chad you probably shouldn't even show), women are of either inferior moral/physical quality or usually superior physical but inferior moral quality.
@ThisIsChris I have never met any woman who goes to a book club (not talking about church groups) that is not already a housewife with time on her hands or a shitlib that smokes pot, owns a cat, and praises modern art. Cultural marxism has infected that too.
I met my wife in a foreign language course.