I think a good way is to be intensely social when single. Go to dinner parties. Host dinner parties. Attend church, maybe even a small group, volunteer, and in a general sense be a man about town in a good way. Make yourself known. It’s not easy if you work an office job in an all male field like engineering so you have to get out there. It’s really hard to meet women when you life outside a large metro area because most women love cities, but it can be done.

A bachelor needs discipline so be sure and rely on the church and the gym for structure.

Small group? AG detected. True though. Use an IE card as a bookmark in your bible maybe.

Might help start the right conversation.

Book based pickups are the best ways to find redpilled qt's.

Book based?

Like, go up to a qt reading a woke book and start a conversation about it?

@NeoRealist nice, books are trad

tfw you swipe through dating apps and there is not a single non degenerate thot in the lineup

sad but tru

boston is gross

all the respectable women move here after they are married or dating already it seems like lol

@Zyzz whats ur bio bro lemme copy that hahaha

@johnnyc I stay far away from the tinders my man

haha i thought u were talking about what to put on dating apps @Zyzz

havent been on tinder in awhile but i find that the women tend to seem more put together and not as many thots on "bumble"

I've heard the opposite

lol really?

ive heard the same from my friends about bumble

I was on both on-and-off for years (frat guy in a big school). Tinder has a lot of thots, but if you're a top tier man you'll do better on it because there are more options and can beat 85% of most.

Bumble. Less thots, but women have to take the initiative to message you first. Not always a good thing because most women are notoriously bad at taking initiative in dating.

I don't find Tinder to be helpful for improving your life

It's not supposed to be used like most men use it. Limit yourself to five to ten minutes a day of swiping and that's it. You will have much better odds talking to 3D women IRL

Of course. It's become a principle thing for me.

I understand that. At the end of the day, it's just a tool, depending on how you use it, but even if used in a non-degenerate way it's not a super effective one compared to other methods of trying to find a GF.

Bumble is deleting any gun related pics. They also donate to planned parenthood when you make a match.http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/24/bumble-presumes-all-of-its-users-support-planned-parenthood/

I've been out of the dating game since before dating apps where a thing. But I can not imagine that it is a very good way to meet good women.

it works if you're a morally shaky chad

@johnnyc yeah I was using hinge with good results. you should note that these apps are location dependent. the idea is you want to use pictures and/or blurbs that screen out girls you are not interested in. For instance, I had a picture of myself in a trump hat. I also had a comment taking a jab at hook up culture, implying I am looking for something serious

Again, come backs to how you use it. You can find quality women on there. You just have to do a lot of vetting and run your metal detector over lots of trash before you find buried treasure on the beach, metaphorically

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@JesseJames me too. I think I just missed the cut-off too. Everyone I know IRL who got in a relationship after me got into it through a dating app.

I don't know anyone who is in a real relationship that started on line. The only people I know who uses it is to hook up. I hate it for you single guys. I started dating my wife at 17 and was married at 20 and had our first kid at 21.

@JesseJames a lot of negatives that were previously associated with internet dated have faded with a younger generation and more quality people have joined. a girl i took out last saturday asked me why i was using internet dating and i explained its a good way to meet people who can get a better feel for who you are prior to actually meeting you. i explained to her that I am not interested in dating any liberals or really anyone who doesnt like trump hence my picture with a trump hat. I also said if i was meeting some random girl at a bar or whatever then i really have no idea of who she is and vice versa. it'd be nice to meet people through family/friends but as you know we are a very disconnected people and many people find it difficult to meet people through friends.

The pros of Internet dating are its cons. You have access to lots of high quality people. The problem is they have access to lots of people who are probably higher quality than you.

hard to find guys higher quality than IE guys. if we do find them then we should recruit them

I am in a frat. It is hard AF to rip normies out of there happy life to join us.

Sometimes I tell guys that if you don't know what I'm talking about now, you will eventually. They are coming for us all

Patrick made a comment on the fireside last night about 80% of women are sleeping with the top 20% of men. I don't think anything in the near term is going to derail that trend so my only piece of advice to all the IE men out there is to get in the top 20% if you're not already there. self improvement needs to be a cornerstone of our movement

@Zyzz I'm kind of doubtful of that 80/20 stat

It's true in sales.

But regardless of the actual stat, I think it demonstrates a point.