Message from @DairyMaxx

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2018-10-23 06:47:33 UTC  

and a friend of mine opened a meat shop across the street from mine

2018-10-23 06:47:38 UTC  

@YourFundamentalTheorum That's an interesting question. The answer is typically no, but where the greed becomes harmful (like billionaires trying to import cheap labor) I'd intervene in the national interest as states above

2018-10-23 06:48:01 UTC  

You can have competition without capitalism

2018-10-23 06:48:11 UTC  

Yup. I agree. National interests and the interests of the well-being of the people should come first

2018-10-23 06:48:17 UTC  

now customers are scarce, so you can't both exist. Would you feel morally right to condemn your comrade to bankrupcy simply because of his choice of profession?

2018-10-23 06:48:45 UTC  
2018-10-23 06:48:54 UTC  

I would argue it's immoral to bankrupt him, for he is your comrade

2018-10-23 06:49:00 UTC  

Agreed

2018-10-23 06:49:02 UTC  

and by doing yourself well you are doing him harm

2018-10-23 06:49:07 UTC  

I would say I'm a national capitalist. Probably the closest example in US history is Teddy Roosevelt

2018-10-23 06:49:27 UTC  

therefore, competition forces people to be immoral

2018-10-23 06:49:35 UTC  

therefore competition is a something to be avoided

2018-10-23 06:49:40 UTC  

>comrade
>nazbol

2018-10-23 06:49:41 UTC  

Meh... idk

2018-10-23 06:50:07 UTC  

>comrade
>his actual name is NPC#504478

2018-10-23 06:50:17 UTC  

Competition is inevitable because the laws of supply and demand are inevitable. Trying to avoid it is utopian fantasizing

2018-10-23 06:50:29 UTC  

Yup^

2018-10-23 06:50:38 UTC  

but the state has to minimize

2018-10-23 06:50:43 UTC  

because it makes people immoral

2018-10-23 06:50:48 UTC  

and develop vice

2018-10-23 06:51:10 UTC  

The only goods transferred should be military issue. Economics itself is a vice

2018-10-23 06:51:19 UTC  

@DairyMaxx juche gang?

2018-10-23 06:51:30 UTC  

I'll say the answer is inbetween, god forbid you call me out as a... *centrist*.

2018-10-23 06:52:04 UTC  

that's handwavy

2018-10-23 06:52:07 UTC  

where is in between then

2018-10-23 06:52:13 UTC  

I don't think it's immoral to want more business to go to you. Now if you were to sabotage your competition, that's one thing, but barring that, competition incentivizes providing a better product in hopes of winning customers

2018-10-23 06:52:18 UTC  

Things that cannot be avoided:
Competition,
Supply and demand,
And
Greed (human nature regardless of tribe)

2018-10-23 06:52:29 UTC  

^^

2018-10-23 06:52:55 UTC  

so we have 2 things that are vices, and instead of fighting them we'll jsut accept them

2018-10-23 06:53:01 UTC  

sounds like a slippery slope into the modern world tbqh

2018-10-23 06:53:16 UTC  

And competition is what leads to growth. minimizing it is a bad idea. Letting it go rampant, is also a bad idea.

2018-10-23 06:53:18 UTC  

The system has to abide by human nature

2018-10-23 06:53:29 UTC  

human nature cannot be one of vice

2018-10-23 06:53:32 UTC  

I'm still pretty undecided on economics

2018-10-23 06:53:35 UTC  

Growth is over rated. We need stability

2018-10-23 06:53:42 UTC  

^

2018-10-23 06:53:43 UTC  

If you consider greed vice, then it is

2018-10-23 06:53:48 UTC  

I'm ripe for converting to your favorite system

2018-10-23 06:53:50 UTC  

@YourFundamentalTheorum Vice is inextricably human

2018-10-23 06:53:51 UTC  

would you not agree that grid is vice?

2018-10-23 06:53:57 UTC  

*greed