>comrade
>his actual name is NPC#504478

Competition is inevitable because the laws of supply and demand are inevitable. Trying to avoid it is utopian fantasizing

Yup^

but the state has to minimize

because it makes people immoral

and develop vice

The only goods transferred should be military issue. Economics itself is a vice

@DairyMaxx juche gang?

I'll say the answer is inbetween, god forbid you call me out as a... *centrist*.

that's handwavy

where is in between then

I don't think it's immoral to want more business to go to you. Now if you were to sabotage your competition, that's one thing, but barring that, competition incentivizes providing a better product in hopes of winning customers

Things that cannot be avoided:
Competition,
Supply and demand,
And
Greed (human nature regardless of tribe)

^^

so we have 2 things that are vices, and instead of fighting them we'll jsut accept them

sounds like a slippery slope into the modern world tbqh

And competition is what leads to growth. minimizing it is a bad idea. Letting it go rampant, is also a bad idea.

The system has to abide by human nature

human nature cannot be one of vice

I'm still pretty undecided on economics

Growth is over rated. We need stability

^

If you consider greed vice, then it is

I'm ripe for converting to your favorite system

@YourFundamentalTheorum Vice is inextricably human

would you not agree that grid is vice?

*greed

feel free to proselytize to me

@Jacob national syndicalism is best

it measures economic status by how many cows you have

it seems pretty cool

A mixed market economy is the best way forward imo along with an identitarian state

@Jacob Mongolian Bolshevism, everyone gets a share of the loot

@Deleted User would you not agree that vice has to be improved instead of cajoled?

You won't breed out vice.

that doesn't mean you shouldnt' fight it

Communists say "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." When it is pointed out that people will not be productive enough without incentives, they say people simply shouldn't be greedy.
That is why communism will always fail. It rests on the idea that human nature must change. Every endeavor to go against human nature so fundamentally has always led to nothing but disaster

> you won't stop dumb teens doing weed
> so let's legalize it
that's awfully leftist

Look, you know what server we're in. I'm all for fighting vice. I just think you're addressing the problem incorrectly

What forms of vice should be stamped out besides porn and drug use?

Declaring human nature vice will not change it. It is not rooted in the economic system itself, so changing the system will jot root it out