Message from @Jacob

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2018-10-23 06:43:10 UTC  

I totally agree^

2018-10-23 06:43:14 UTC  

Some regulation is good

2018-10-23 06:43:17 UTC  

>having corporations

2018-10-23 06:44:12 UTC  

capitalism has a fundamental flaw: it relies on a human vice to function. namely greed.

2018-10-23 06:44:29 UTC  

nazbol spotted

2018-10-23 06:44:29 UTC  

Capitalism's flaws are the flaws of ordinary people. Capitalism supplies whatever they demand. The fundamental issue with it then is mostly cultural. Take healthcare costs, for example. If people had healthy lifestyles instead of rampant obesity, they wouldn't be sky high

2018-10-23 06:45:11 UTC  

Agreed. It could even be compared to democracy. If America was a 100% democracy slavery would never have been outlawed and the civil war wouldn't have happened

2018-10-23 06:45:16 UTC  

I would argue that's capitalism's most brilliant feature. It doesn't fight human nature (greed), but rather it channels it into productivity

2018-10-23 06:45:41 UTC  

@Deleted User If Niko doesn't have time I might be able to do it

2018-10-23 06:45:42 UTC  

but would you not agree that greed is a vice that we should curb?

2018-10-23 06:46:05 UTC  

Capitalisms most brilliant feature is having never been tried

2018-10-23 06:46:21 UTC  

If we fixed the media and got it to stop promoting degenerate things, the public would demand different goods and the market would provide. The media is ultimately the root of most problems today, imo

2018-10-23 06:46:43 UTC  

capitalism promotes greed (whcih you conceded), yet you blame the media?

2018-10-23 06:46:46 UTC  

Greed is the essence of capitalism.. however, greed can lead to enormous generosity. Some people realize they have too much and tend to give a lot to others... but I would argue it is few and far between. Most want to stack as much as they can.

2018-10-23 06:46:56 UTC  

> capitalism is good <:really:453005408064241674>

2018-10-23 06:47:16 UTC  

capitalism rests on competition

2018-10-23 06:47:20 UTC  

now suppose that I was a butcher

2018-10-23 06:47:25 UTC  

Competition is good

2018-10-23 06:47:33 UTC  

and a friend of mine opened a meat shop across the street from mine

2018-10-23 06:47:38 UTC  

@YourFundamentalTheorum That's an interesting question. The answer is typically no, but where the greed becomes harmful (like billionaires trying to import cheap labor) I'd intervene in the national interest as states above

2018-10-23 06:48:01 UTC  

You can have competition without capitalism

2018-10-23 06:48:11 UTC  

Yup. I agree. National interests and the interests of the well-being of the people should come first

2018-10-23 06:48:17 UTC  

now customers are scarce, so you can't both exist. Would you feel morally right to condemn your comrade to bankrupcy simply because of his choice of profession?

2018-10-23 06:48:45 UTC  
2018-10-23 06:48:54 UTC  

I would argue it's immoral to bankrupt him, for he is your comrade

2018-10-23 06:49:00 UTC  

Agreed

2018-10-23 06:49:02 UTC  

and by doing yourself well you are doing him harm

2018-10-23 06:49:07 UTC  

I would say I'm a national capitalist. Probably the closest example in US history is Teddy Roosevelt

2018-10-23 06:49:27 UTC  

therefore, competition forces people to be immoral

2018-10-23 06:49:35 UTC  

therefore competition is a something to be avoided

2018-10-23 06:49:40 UTC  

>comrade
>nazbol

2018-10-23 06:49:41 UTC  

Meh... idk

2018-10-23 06:50:07 UTC  

>comrade
>his actual name is NPC#504478

2018-10-23 06:50:17 UTC  

Competition is inevitable because the laws of supply and demand are inevitable. Trying to avoid it is utopian fantasizing

2018-10-23 06:50:29 UTC  

Yup^

2018-10-23 06:50:38 UTC  

but the state has to minimize

2018-10-23 06:50:43 UTC  

because it makes people immoral

2018-10-23 06:50:48 UTC  

and develop vice

2018-10-23 06:51:10 UTC  

The only goods transferred should be military issue. Economics itself is a vice

2018-10-23 06:51:19 UTC  

@DairyMaxx juche gang?

2018-10-23 06:51:30 UTC  

I'll say the answer is inbetween, god forbid you call me out as a... *centrist*.